# The final presidential debate: 10/22/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 22, 2012, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497 "2012-10-22T06:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![C6541](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@C6541](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C6541)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/441 "2012-10-23T02:37:08Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Split decision Romney win… I’m just not seeing that ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/442 "2012-10-23T02:37:34Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Romney now willing to give a date for withdrawal from Afghanistan. Wasn’t he against this just last week? Rachel Maddow pounced on that one moments after the debate ended. Hah. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/443 "2012-10-23T02:37:37Z")
PBS commentator has debate tied, with maybe slight edge to Romney. Do these people watch the same debates? WTF? Some white dude with wire rims. Ah, David Brooks. yeah. Tool ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/444 "2012-10-23T02:38:11Z")
This was absolutely an Obama win. It wasn’t a knockout blow, but it was a solid win. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/445 "2012-10-23T02:38:13Z")
[Here’s what FactCheck](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/22/fact-check-the-auto-industry-bailout/) has to say. Looks like I wasn’t entirely following the back-and-forth, and Obama wasn’t that far off after all. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/446 "2012-10-23T02:38:40Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > PBS commentator has debate tied, with maybe slight edge to Romney. Do these people watch the same debates? WTF? Some white dude with wire rims. Big Bird! ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/447 "2012-10-23T02:40:09Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > PBS commentator has debate tied, with maybe slight edge to Romney. Do these people watch the same debates? WTF? Some white dude with wire rims. He’s a boring ninny. I watch these things on PBS to annoy Mittens. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/448 "2012-10-23T02:40:12Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Split decision Romney win… Spin it, baby. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/449 "2012-10-23T02:40:40Z")
I’d be hard pressed to call a winner tonight. Obama came out a bit desperate early, got a couple good one liners in toward the middle and maybe lost a little ground toward the end. Romney didn’t impress me incredibly, but I think he understood he didn’t have to be overly impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/450 "2012-10-23T02:41:28Z")
Is Maddow online or TV only? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/451 "2012-10-23T02:41:36Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > He’s a boring ninny. I watch these things on PBS to annoy Mittens. David Brooks, who is clearly biased toward Romney, despite working for a “liberal rag”. Mark Shields is more balanced this time around than last time, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/452 "2012-10-23T02:41:52Z")
I thought Obama dominated. This was Obama’s best debate, and Romney’s worst. A total reversal from debate #1. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/453 "2012-10-23T02:42:44Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > I’d be hard pressed to call a winner tonight. Obama came out a bit desperate early, got a couple good one liners in toward the middle and maybe lost a little ground toward the end. Romney didn’t impress me incredibly, but I think he understood he didn’t have to be overly impressive. No? He’s running behind in the key states. He needed to win this decisively. He did not, by any objective measure. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/454 "2012-10-23T02:42:59Z")
> [@C6541](#): > > I’m just not seeing that Joe Trippi only saying a slight edge to Obama. It was really close. I can see a draw. I thought that Romney stuck with his plan to be stoic and presidential and he wins on points. Obama had the glare going on. He held his own, but Romney did as well. This late in the game, Obama has to paint a clear difference. On a side note, the moderator actually did a decent job for once.. ---
**Author:** ![Feyrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/fbc32d/32.png) [@Feyrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feyrat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/455 "2012-10-23T02:43:15Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I thought Obama dominated. This was Obama’s best debate, and Romney’s worst. A total reversal from debate #1. Agreed. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/456 "2012-10-23T02:43:46Z")
> [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](#): > > Is Maddow online or TV only? Pretty sure TV only. ---
**Author:** ![C6541](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90db22/32.png) [@C6541](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C6541)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/457 "2012-10-23T02:43:46Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This was Obama’s best debate, and Romney’s worst. A total reversal from debate #1. These are my sentiments as well, excellent showing by Obama. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/458 "2012-10-23T02:44:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I thought Obama dominated. This was Obama’s best debate, and Romney’s worst. A total reversal from debate #1. No freaking way, dude. Not close to a reversal of the first debate… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/459 "2012-10-23T02:44:27Z")
Finish him! ---
**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497/460 "2012-10-23T02:44:27Z")
Yeah, I can’t imagine why anyone would see this as a Mitt win, unless they are letting their biases cloud their judgment. Romney spent a lot of time agreeing with Obama and sweating like he planned on going as Nixon for Halloween. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497.md?page=22) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-final-presidential-debate-10-22-12/638497.md?page=24)