# The first presidential debate: 10/3/2012

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 3, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602 "2012-10-03T17:16:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/181 "2012-10-04T02:27:36Z")

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Good shot by Obama on Romney’s claim of bipartisanship if elected. If only he’d done a bit more of that.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/182 "2012-10-04T02:28:12Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Can we all agree whoever’s in charge we WILL fire Jim Lehrer anyway? At least from this moderator gig?

Well, Governor Romney says he’s not going to change entitlements, so he ought to be okay.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/183 "2012-10-04T02:28:15Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> AGAIN Romney gets the last word. It’s pissing me off, but it should piss Obama off that he allowed it to happen so often.

Obama still had over 4 minutes more total speaking time than Romney, according to CNN’s “Speaking Time” meter. So, seems fair to me.

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**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/184 "2012-10-04T02:28:17Z")

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OMFG. He even got the last word on the coin toss.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/185 "2012-10-04T02:28:20Z")

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Christ, he gets the last word again.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/186 "2012-10-04T02:28:29Z")

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Closing argument.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/187 "2012-10-04T02:29:23Z")

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Conan O’Brian just tweeted that he just noticed that Jim Leher has no whites in his eyes…

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/188 "2012-10-04T02:30:41Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Oooh, zinger! “You’re not entitled to your own facts.”

I’m thinking he had to get that sound bite in because they probably have an ad campaign scheduled based on it. It will be interesting to see if the ad campaign comes from a “not coordinating” superPAC or from the Romney campaign.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/189 "2012-10-04T02:30:55Z")

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Did I hear that right… “Mr. President, thank you for tuning in this evening”?

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**Author:** ![threeorange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@threeorange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threeorange)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/190 "2012-10-04T02:31:03Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> AGAIN Romney gets the last word. It’s pissing me off, but it should piss Obama off that he allowed it to happen so often.

The reason Romney is continually bitchslapping Lehrer and making his own rules for the debate is because that’s what plays well to the FoxNewsWatching demographic. They like bullies-look at Hannity, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, etc.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/191 "2012-10-04T02:31:23Z")

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Y’know, there’s zingers and there’s zingers. And some of the best zingers make no difference (“You’re no Jack Kennedy”). The one with “your own facts” is extra klunky because it’s entirely unoriginal. At least the “you pick losers” one flowed well from the speech. Obama’s last one was good but nothing special either.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/192 "2012-10-04T02:31:58Z")

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Mitt gets the last word.

😛

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**Author:** ![Enkel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/df705f/32.png) [@Enkel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enkel)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/193 "2012-10-04T02:32:10Z")

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Romney’s makeup is terrible, he should have stuck to the tan because he looks like a cheap embalmer did it for the debate. Then when he was mugging and grimacing, he struck me as what old people do when they have trouble with their dentures.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/194 "2012-10-04T02:32:43Z")

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So, Romney brought up the ~90 billion dollars put into green technologies which comes to, what, half a year of the cost of planting the military in Iraq and Afghanistan?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/195 "2012-10-04T02:32:56Z")

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Intrade just dropped Obama below 70%.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/196 "2012-10-04T02:33:53Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Conan O’Brian just tweeted that he just noticed that Jim Leher has no whites in his eyes…

So, I can’t shoot him?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/197 "2012-10-04T02:34:10Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> So, Romney brought up the ~90 billion dollars put into green technologies which comes to, what, half a year of the cost of what it cost planting the military in Iraq and Afghanistan?

But also 100 years worth of oil subsidies. Is that wise when deficits are so large?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/198 "2012-10-04T02:35:06Z")

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That debate was terrible, and I want my money back. The PBS commentators are puzzled by why Obama didn’t bring up the 47% remark, but I dunno. I agree that Obama missed a lot of opportunities, but I think he was better off without that. Anyway, sucky debate. C-

But that was the best looking presidential debate I’ve ever seen. What? :o

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/199 "2012-10-04T02:35:17Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> But also 100 years worth of oil subsidies. Is that wise when deficits are so large?

Yes. What’s NOT wise is to increase deficits during times of plenty, like our last Republican president did. See also Joseph and his amazing technicolor dreamcoat.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/200 "2012-10-04T02:35:20Z")

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Romney is etchascetching tonight. Pretty centrist compared to the guy I saw during the primaries.

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