# The first presidential debate: 10/3/2012 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 3, 2012, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602 "2012-10-03T17:16:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/161 "2012-10-04T02:18:25Z")
Romney’s winning, but he said two things that are going to haunt him: “I’ll cut Sesame Street”, and “If there was a tax break for sending plants overseas, I would know about it.” ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/162 "2012-10-04T02:19:36Z")
Romney almost fucked up by saying that people unable to take care of themselves “need to be taken care of by .upbupbup cared for by …bupupkup others to care for them.” Almost said that government needs to provide for them. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/163 "2012-10-04T02:19:52Z")
Complete mystery why Obama didn’t say: “You don’t cut the deficit by killing Big Bird. You cut the deficit by a serious and balanced approach…blah blah.” ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/164 "2012-10-04T02:20:40Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > Obama lost most of his jitters and stammers as soon as he started talking about the role of government. Can’t wait to contrast with Romney. Didn’t last… **RedFury** describes well the projection issue. McCain really was a wounded adversary at this time 4 years ago, Romney is merely slightly behind. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/165 "2012-10-04T02:20:48Z")
Ooohh, Romney’s got that Smirky McSmirkson look on him. I’d watch that if I were him. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/166 "2012-10-04T02:21:11Z")
“Do you agree, Governor?” “Oh yeah” “Yeah” “We agree.” “We agree” “Yeah.” ---
**Author:** ![moejoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@moejoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moejoe)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/167 "2012-10-04T02:21:17Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Romney almost fucked up by saying that people unable to take care of themselves “need to be taken care of by .upbupbup cared for by …bupupkup others to care for them.” Almost said that government needs to provide for them. It seemed to me he was saying they need to be taken care of by churches and private charities rather than by government. ---
**Author:** ![Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Marconi\_N.Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marconi_N.Cheese)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/168 "2012-10-04T02:21:31Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Anybody know what is the black spot on Romney’s flag pin? Secret Service star logo, a gift from his USSS agents according to the[Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/03/whats-the-spot-on-romneys-lapel-pin/). ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/169 "2012-10-04T02:21:36Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > Obama very hesitant, lacks confidence…Rommey the opposite, regadless of substance, plays well on TV. Sucks, but there it is. Obama is actually terrific on TV – but not during debates. His schtick is “Let’s consider both sides… let’s be reasonable.” It works pretty well. But not in a debate. ## Whether the Obama campaign can leverage Romney’s comments later on is something we’ll have to see. Oooo! Zinger! “Mr President, You’re entitled to your own plane but not your own facts.” Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/170 "2012-10-04T02:21:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Ooohh, Romney’s got that Smirky McSmirkson look on him. I’d watch that if I were him. Obama kind of stares at his lectern while Romney is talking, which probably turns off just as many voters. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/171 "2012-10-04T02:22:41Z")
HA! Not entitled to your own facts! Only ROMNEY is entitled to his own facts, and to the last word! ---
**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/172 "2012-10-04T02:22:56Z")
> [@Marconi\_N.Cheese](#): > > Secret Service star logo, a gift from his USSS agents according to the[Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/03/whats-the-spot-on-romneys-lapel-pin/). Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/173 "2012-10-04T02:23:10Z")
Well, Mitt finally got one of his canned zingers in. Klunk. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/174 "2012-10-04T02:23:21Z")
Oooh, zinger! “You’re not entitled to your own facts.” ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/175 "2012-10-04T02:24:40Z")
AGAIN Romney gets the last word. It’s pissing me off, but it should piss Obama off that he allowed it to happen so often. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/176 "2012-10-04T02:25:38Z")
Romney: “On day one - actually the day after I get elected” 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/177 "2012-10-04T02:25:46Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Well, Mitt finally got one of his canned zingers in. Klunk. He got in the “you don’t just pick winners and losers; you pick losers” line earlier. It sounded as canned and planned as cranberry dressing. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/178 "2012-10-04T02:26:17Z")
Can we all agree whoever’s in charge we WILL fire Jim Lehrer anyway? At least from this moderator gig? ---
**Author:** ![a35362](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3da27b/32.png) [@a35362](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/a35362)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/179 "2012-10-04T02:27:07Z")
I don’t believe a word Romney is saying. He’s all squeaky-clean, gosh-darn it, the answers are so obvious and I can do this and it’ll be easy. Grrr. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602/180 "2012-10-04T02:27:31Z")
Good Obama zinger, and seemingly off the cuff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-first-presidential-debate-10-3-2012/636602.md?page=10)