# The five billion dollar wall

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [December 21, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495 "2018-12-21T15:50:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/541 "2019-01-18T00:10:11Z")

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> [@Apollyon](#):
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> some adventure activities for the grown-ups (a climbing wall would seem a must)

Yes, climb higher and higher within the administration despite lack of any relevant climbing skills until you hear the random “tweet” sound and the handholds pop loose, sending you to the ground.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/542 "2019-01-18T05:04:20Z")

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> [@Apollyon](#):
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> Visitors could gaze upon it and then buy a thumb drive of the president’s collected “works” at the inevitable gift shop.

You’d need a pinkie drive for his collected works. One of his tiny, tiny ones.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/543 "2019-01-18T16:49:36Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Yes, climb higher and higher within the administration despite lack of any relevant climbing skills until you hear the random “tweet” sound and the handholds pop loose, sending you to the ground.

With Mueller offering to catch you if you talk.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/544 "2019-01-18T20:25:56Z")

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How about this, as a compromise, meeting him exactly half way. Congress agrees to match Mexico’s contribution to the wall dollar for dollar up to $2.85 billion. If Trump can get Mexico to pay for half the wall we’ll pony up the other half. Note that this has to be a payment from Mexico directly into the US government coffers, none of this saying that thanks to his “not-NAFTA” trade agreement Mexicans are buying $5 billion of American stuff and that is paying for the wall, or that we collected $5 billion in tariffs from Americans buying stuff from Mexico.

I’m sure if he’s as great a negotiator as he said in the campaign he can make it happen.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2019, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-five-billion-dollar-wall/826495/545 "2019-01-18T20:58:17Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> How about this, as a compromise, meeting him exactly half way. Congress agrees to match Mexico’s contribution to the wall dollar for dollar up to $2.85 billion. If Trump can get Mexico to pay for half the wall we’ll pony up the other half. Note that this has to be a payment from Mexico directly into the US government coffers, none of this saying that thanks to his “not-NAFTA” trade agreement Mexicans are buying $5 billion of American stuff and that is paying for the wall, or that we collected $5 billion in tariffs from Americans buying stuff from Mexico.
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> I’m sure if he’s as great a negotiator as he said in the campaign he can make it happen.

I like that. And since, if the wall actually works to suppress immigration, Mexico should like it, since AIUI most of the immigrants now are Central Americans, and if they know they can’t get across to the US, they aren’t likely to cross into Mexico. Win-win!

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