# The fix was in, apparently **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266 "2016-07-06T22:37:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/41 "2016-07-07T03:01:19Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I will confess to not caring enough to do the research, but I was under the impression the allegation is only that she \*received \*(unmarked) classified information, not that she _sent_ any to someone who wasn’t authorized to view it. I will have to look at more information but I think that the interns or other staff members would had been involved, but even with one getting inmunity it is clear to me now that what he and others revealed was not what the Republicans wanted, just that indeed there was no effort to willfully reveal secrets. Or that other staff members also made the mistakes, harder then to just blame Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/42 "2016-07-07T03:11:00Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > For example, let’s say you broke the law about speeding, and that this is a law that required intent. If you didn’t know you were speeding, that would be a defense. Not knowing that speeding was against the law would not be. Worst possible example. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/43 "2016-07-07T03:11:56Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > So what was the crime she committed? Count 1: Attempted Presidenting While Female. Count 2: Attempted Presidenting While Clinton. Count 3: Attempted Presidenting While Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/44 "2016-07-07T03:16:31Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I notice that **Clothahump** and **Starving Artist** have not pressed the FBI to open the investigations of Powell and Rice for those of their actions that were the same as those of Clinton. > > I wonder why that is? It does make one think: Imagine this thread if, in 2008, Condi had gotten the GOP nomination, was investigated by the FBI for the exact same actions with the exact same result. I think we might find a few posters suddenly growing goatees. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/45 "2016-07-07T03:23:39Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > It does kind of remind me of this: > > During Reagan Administration: > > 10 Embassy Attacks > 318 Deaths > (1 U.S. Ambassador killed > 18 CIA officers killed > 254 Marines killed) > > Congressional Investigations: 1 > > During Bush Administration: > 13 Embassy Attacks > 66 Deaths > (3 American Diplomats Killed > 22 Embassy Employees Killed) > > Congressional Investigations: 0 > > During Obama Administration: > 2 Embassy Attacks > 4 American Deaths > (1 American Diplomat Killed) > > Congressional Investigations: 13 > > Cost to U.S. taxpayers for partisan witchhunts: $14,000,000. Hey Tomndebb- do you have a cite for that list? not because I think it’s wrong, but because there are a few people I think should see it. Also, why no Bill Clinton? He seems notably absent. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/46 "2016-07-07T03:26:04Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Hey Tomndebb- do you have a cite for that list? not because I think it’s wrong, but because there are a few people I think should see it. **Also, why no Bill Clinton? He seems notably absent.** Probably focusing on the GOP failure to decry attacks that came on their watch. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/47 "2016-07-07T03:31:34Z")
Well, I for one am very glad Bill finally finished writing the FBI recommendations and got them to Loretta Lynch. I like the style here, there’s a easy swing to these folks’ operation. I think the FBI should have waited another day or two, a few people might still remember the meeting out on the tarmac. Nothing says taste like exchanging documents out on the tarmac driving up in your Learjet. Hillary … the classy candidate … I like Michelle Obama to pieces, don’t get me wrong, but _no way_ could she have pulled this off ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/48 "2016-07-07T03:37:17Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Hillary is gonna skate. The head of the FBI came out and read a LONG list of criminal fuckups on her part. And then he announced that they weren’t going to prosecute her for them because she didn’t know what she was doing. :mad: > > Let’s assume that this is true, that Hillary didn’t know the proper way to handle top secret and classified communications. That just means that she is either too stupid or too incompetent to be president. So any way you look at it, criminal, stupid, or incompetent, she is utterly unqualified to be president. > > And the director of the FBI should be fired for incompetence, and possibly arrested for taking a bribe. But that won’t happen unless we get really lucky. This is absolutely unfounded. I assume it’s your position that other people who were similarly careless about their handling of classified information were criminally prosecuted? And based on that, you feel Hillary Clinton was treated unfairly leniently? OK, so I’m willing to be convinced. It won’t take much; I’m decidedly not a fan if Mrs. Clinton. Just give me the names of those prior criminally prosecuted people who acted similarly. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/49 "2016-07-07T03:39:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Just out of curiosity, is it ever possible for someone to disagree with you on politics without being criminal, stupid, or incompetent? Is there the slightest chance that maybe James Comey, who worked for Republicans and Democrats for many years, is an honorable man who just happened to reach a different conclusion than you? An excellent question. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/50 "2016-07-07T03:52:14Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This is absolutely unfounded. > > I assume it’s your position that other people who were similarly careless about their handling of classified information were criminally prosecuted? > > And based on that, you feel Hillary Clinton was treated unfairly leniently? > > OK, so I’m willing to be convinced. It won’t take much; I’m decidedly not a fan if Mrs. Clinton. **Just give me the names of those prior criminally prosecuted people who acted similarly.** Bolding Mine Nice … the Free Press says it’s a tight argument … She’d lose a stripe if she was in the military, transferred to Entomology or offered a discharge. It’s a lack of discipline on her part, lesson learned, it’s a simple correction to fix this here on out. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/51 "2016-07-07T03:58:49Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > transferred to Entomology Is this some milspeak? Autocorrect? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/52 "2016-07-07T04:03:53Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Bolding Mine > > Nice … the Free Press says it’s a tight argument … > > She’d lose a stripe if she was in the military, transferred to Entomology or offered a discharge. It’s a lack of discipline on her part, lesson learned, it’s a simple correction to fix this here on out. And if she had already left the military when her mishandling came to light? ---
**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/53 "2016-07-07T04:09:51Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Hillary is gonna skate. The head of the FBI came out and read a LONG list of criminal fuckups on her part. And then he announced that they weren’t going to prosecute her for them because she didn’t know what she was doing. :mad: > > Let’s assume that this is true, that Hillary didn’t know the proper way to handle top secret and classified communications. That just means that she is either too stupid or too incompetent to be president. So any way you look at it, criminal, stupid, or incompetent, she is utterly unqualified to be president. > > And the director of the FBI should be fired for incompetence, and possibly arrested for taking a bribe. But that won’t happen unless we get really lucky. When will you and the rest of the Hillary Haters just get over this and Benghazi? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/54 "2016-07-07T10:40:02Z")
> [@OldOlds](#): > > Hey Tomndebb- do you have a cite for that list? not because I think it’s wrong, but because there are a few people I think should see it. Also, why no Bill Clinton? He seems notably absent. I’m looking for the original source. As a throwaway in The BBQ Pit, I did not spend a lot of time researching it. Since the “Reagan” note includes the Marine barracks at the Lebanese airport, not an embassy, that should not actually be on the list. The Kenyan & Tanzania attacks under Clinton are also missing, as you note. (I wonder about the number of Congressional Inquiries when those are included.) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/55 "2016-07-07T11:03:29Z")
[Politifact (yes, I know) on the embassy attacks quote.](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/may/12/john-garamendi/prior-benghazi-were-there-13-attacks-embassies-and/) > [@](#): > > Garamendi said that “during the George W. Bush period, there were 13 attacks on various embassies and consulates around the world. Sixty people died.” There are actually different ways to count the number of attacks, especially when considering attacks on ambassadors and embassy personnel who were traveling to or from embassy property. Overall, we found Garamendi slightly understated the number of deadly attacks and total fatalities, even using a strict definition. Garamendi’s claim is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, so we rate it Mostly True. The part about \*\*Clothy \*\*and \*\*adaher \*\*not being outraged then is also rated True. [Here’s Wiki’s list, ftr.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attacks_on_diplomatic_missions) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/56 "2016-07-07T11:10:47Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Really, it is even more clear now that the overall Republican plan in this election required that expected indictment The only plan that could possibly offset the effect of having The 4Chan Thread That Walks Like A Man as their nominee would be “wait for Hillary’s human disguise to slip and reveal her true hideous reptile alien face”. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/57 "2016-07-07T12:36:05Z")
> [@russian\_heel](#): > > When will you and the rest of the Hillary Haters just get over this and Benghazi? Shit, they’re still pissed off about Jane Fonda. ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/58 "2016-07-07T12:49:45Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I notice that **Clothahump** and **Starving Artist** have not pressed the FBI to open the investigations of Powell and Rice for those of their actions that were the same as those of Clinton. > > I wonder why that is? Because they’re black? Wait, actually that should make them automatically guilty of everything in Clothyworld. ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/59 "2016-07-07T13:13:24Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Hillary is gonna skate. Your “Leaders” and your news “Celebrities” TOLD you that Mrs. Clinton was a criminal and corrupt and going to prison. They _PROMISED_ you, didn’t they? And you fell for it. They **know** that you are gullible and stupid. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/60 "2016-07-07T13:20:59Z")
To quote the great [Trae Crowder](http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/07/liberal-redneck-trae-crowder-thrilled-fbi-done-hillarys-emails/): > [@](#): > > Hillary could email Kim-Jong Un my social security number and a picture of my wife’s titties and I’d STILL vote for her over Donald Trump. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266.md?page=4)