# The fix was in, apparently

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 6, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266 "2016-07-06T22:37:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/81 "2016-07-07T21:03:14Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Bullshit. Having her arrested was not part of the game plan in the slightest.

Bullshit back to you. **I never mentioned an arrest** , that was however what most in the right wing nutty sphere were given as food (and it was bullshit indeed) and instead of demanding better from the sources of info you consume you send disapproval to someone telling you how wrong they were on this message board.

> **[Dick Morris: Why Hillary Should Be In Jail Over Private Server](https://www.nationalenquirer.com/videos/hillary-clinton-dick-morris-private-server-criminal-acts-video/)**
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> The former top strategist for Bill Clinton reveals how Secretary of State Hillary Clinton compromised security in shocking exclusive video!

> **[Hillary will be indicted, says former U.S. attorney \* WorldNetDaily \* by...](https://www.wnd.com/2016/01/hillary-will-be-indicted-says-former-u-s-attorney/)**
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> ... Read more

> **[Donald Trump: 'Hillary Clinton Has Got to go to Jail,' 'Guilty as Hell'](https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/06/03/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-got-go-jail-guilty-hell/)**
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> "I will say this, Hillary Clinton has got to go to jail," Trump told his supporters at a campaign rally in San Jose, California, referencing Clinton's email scandal where she used a private server while secretary of state. "Folks, honestly, she's...

An indictment would had been a very serious talking point to use till the end of time. Being accused of a crime would had been very bad indeed for the presidential run.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> The FBI director came out and read a long frickin’ list of crimes committed by Hillary, then said that she wasn’t going to be busted for them. Seriously, am I the only one pissed off about that? That is so wrong, it’s not even in the same zip code with right.

As others pointed out, those were rule violations, not a crime unless you could demonstrate that was made with the intention to undermine national security. And then many of the rules that many right wing sources of misinformation used were post facto rules. Very little wonder that Comey pointed out that no prosecutor would recommend a conviction.

What I do speculate is that Comley had to be as harsh as possible with Hillary as there would not be a conviction, unfortunately the Republicans admited that that was not good enough. As I pointed elsewhere that “not good enough” is an admission that **they did not got what they needed** to undermine Clinton in the general election.

So now they are stuck with Mr. “National Enquirer is a serious paper” Donald Trump as their presidential candidate with no good talking points to make the fight more even.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/82 "2016-07-07T21:13:21Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Bullshit. Having her arrested was not part of the game plan in the slightest.
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> The FBI director came out and read a long frickin’ list of crimes committed by Hillary, then said that she wasn’t going to be busted for them. Seriously, am I the only one pissed off about that? That is so wrong, it’s not even in the same zip code with right.

You’re as big a liar as you’re trying to make her out to be.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/83 "2016-07-07T21:15:44Z")

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Once again Humpy’s reality is seen to embrace a bunch of shit that never happened

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/84 "2016-07-07T21:20:12Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> An excellent question.

Based on his latest posts, the answer to both questions appears to be “no”.

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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/85 "2016-07-07T21:22:36Z")

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Of course the fix was in.

When Loretta Lynch said that she would follow the recommendations of the FBI and _career prosecutors_ she was not signaling that she would defer to their judgement as the public saw her message to be saying, she was sending a very clear signal to them about their jobs.

Career was not some term of respect for the experience of the prosecutors, the word was in the statement so that they all would think about their jobs before issuing the recommendations.

Very clear, very clever, very Clinton, very politics.

Side note, if I were a black person and my family name was Lynch, I would be changing that shit.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/86 "2016-07-07T21:24:28Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> she was sending a very clear signal to them about their jobs.

We could power the entire Earth for a month if only we could figure out a way to harness all the eye rolling at this crap.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/87 "2016-07-07T21:36:10Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Of course the fix was in.
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> When Loretta Lynch said that she would follow the recommendations of the FBI and _career prosecutors_ she was not signaling that she would defer to their judgement as the public saw her message to be saying, she was sending a very clear signal to them about their jobs.
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> Career was not some term of respect for the experience of the prosecutors, the word was in the statement so that they all would think about their jobs before issuing the recommendations.
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> Very clear, very clever, very Clinton, very politics.
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> Side note, if I were a black person and my family name was Lynch, I would be changing that shit.

Right, and Comey is a dishonorable man who would never put making correct and honorable judgment ahead of keeping a public service job when given such a vague signal, when he could make millions in the private sector and as a lobbyist.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/88 "2016-07-07T21:43:50Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Side note, if I were a black person and my family name was Lynch, I would be changing that shit.

WTF is wrong with you?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/89 "2016-07-07T21:47:07Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Bullshit. Having her arrested was not part of the game plan in the slightest.

Yes, you were expecting only an indictment, since you can’t hope to win the election by actual persuasion.

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> The FBI director came out and read a long frickin’ list of crimes committed by Hillary

You think they’re crimes only because you know she’s a criminal, therefore everything she does must be a crime and it only takes enough balls to file the paperwork - that’s the \*\*Clothy \*\*view. The \*\*adaher \*\*corollary is that we know she’s a criminal because she keeps getting accuse of criminality. The real world knows you’re living in a House of Mirrors.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/90 "2016-07-07T21:57:07Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Side note, if I were a black person and my family name was Lynch, I would be changing that shit.

If I was black, I’d change my name to John Caucasian. 😛

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/91 "2016-07-07T22:06:52Z")

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> [@bump](#):
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> As an IT professional working in the healthcare industry, what I’d be really curious to find out is if you were to take any sensitive information in Clinton’s case, and replace it with PHI/PII, and then replace Clinton with any garden-variety executive for a health care company, would what was done get that company and/or the executive fined or charged criminally under HIPAA or other healthcare privacy legislation?
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> Seems to me that is a reasonable yardstick as to whether or not she did anything worth getting wound up over- in my eyes, the personal privacy stuff ought to carry the same or lesser penalties than classified information.

As an IT professional working in the electric industry, if one of our employees were caught emailing sensitive data (we have tons of it) to an insecure server, they’d be fired immediately and the company would probably be fined upwards of a million dollars. I don’t believe that there would be any actual criminal charges unless it was shown that the data was intentionally sent to a 3rd party such as Russia or North Korea. In that case, the FBI would be on our asses like white on rice.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/92 "2016-07-07T22:14:57Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Of course the fix was in.
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> When Loretta Lynch said that she would follow the recommendations of the FBI and _career prosecutors_ she was not signaling that she would defer to their judgement as the public saw her message to be saying, she was sending a very clear signal to them about their jobs.
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> Career was not some term of respect for the experience of the prosecutors, the word was in the statement so that they all would think about their jobs before issuing the recommendations.

I presume that this amazing insight is due to your possession of the Secret Decoder Ring that only Loretta and her career prosecutors are supposed to have. We look forward to more of your amazing blockbuster revelations. Do you also have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/93 "2016-07-07T22:20:02Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Bullshit. Having her arrested was not part of the game plan in the slightest.
> 
> The FBI director came out and read a long frickin’ list of crimes committed by Hillary, then said that she wasn’t going to be busted for them. Seriously, am I the only one pissed off about that? That is so wrong, it’s not even in the same zip code with right.

Director Comey explains why there will be no indictment. He says that since the FBI was created, in 1917, only once has there ever been a prosecution for gross negligence, and he disagreed with the prosecution in that case. He claimed that to now go after Hillary when they never went after anybody else would be celebrity hunting.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/eBmR1u19Oaw/hqdefault.jpg "FBI Director Just Left Clinton Witch Hunters Speechless") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBmR1u19Oaw)

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/94 "2016-07-07T22:20:23Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Hillary is gonna skate. The head of the FBI came out and read a LONG list of criminal fuckups on her part. And then he announced that they weren’t going to prosecute her for them because she didn’t know what she was doing. :mad:
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> Let’s assume that this is true, that Hillary didn’t know the proper way to handle top secret and classified communications. That just means that she is either too stupid or too incompetent to be president. So any way you look at it, criminal, stupid, or incompetent, she is utterly unqualified to be president.
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> And the director of the FBI should be fired for incompetence, and possibly arrested for taking a bribe. But that won’t happen unless we get really lucky.

You’re a stupid person. I’m sorry that the world is moving so fast.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/95 "2016-07-07T22:25:21Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Shit, they’re still pissed off about Jane Fonda.

I’m still pissed about Hayes/Tilden.

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/96 "2016-07-07T22:26:23Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> The FBI director came out and read a long frickin’ list of crimes committed by Hillary, then said that she wasn’t going to be busted for them. Seriously, am I the only one pissed off about that? That is so wrong, it’s not even in the same zip code with right.

I LOVE your sweaty desperation and impotent rage. Makes me laugh!

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/97 "2016-07-07T23:29:17Z")

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> [@Nars\_Glinley](#):
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> As an IT professional working in the electric industry, if one of our employees were caught emailing sensitive data (we have tons of it) to an insecure server, they’d be fired immediately and the company would probably be fined upwards of a million dollars. I don’t believe that there would be any actual criminal charges unless it was shown that the data was intentionally sent to a 3rd party such as Russia or North Korea. In that case, the FBI would be on our asses like white on rice.

My work has lots of sensitive data also, and people read it on their non-work phones all the time. (Private phones.) Our information protection class has guidelines but they do not include never reading your sensitive mail on a mobile device.  
There are levels of security - there are some levels where this could get you into trouble. But the equivalent of classified is not one. And it is not a firing offense.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/98 "2016-07-08T00:29:11Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Let’s assume that this is true, that Hillary didn’t know the proper way to handle top secret and classified communications. That just means that she is either too stupid or too incompetent to be president.

I’d say it means that she is totally unqualified to install email servers.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/99 "2016-07-08T00:35:48Z")

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It occurs to me that the president isn’t permitted to have his own mobile device. All the devices at his disposal are gov’t issued and secure. Therefore, I think we should punish Hillary by making the next president, thus ensuring she cannot mishandle confidential information. That’ll learn 'er!

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/100 "2016-07-08T00:36:46Z")

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> [@Dallas\_Jones](#):
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> Of course the fix was in.

I’m glad to see that someone who refuses to be taken in by the Lamestream Media is participating in this thread.

What really makes me mad is that we could clear all this up if we could just get a peek at Obama’s college transcripts.

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