# The fix was in, apparently **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 6, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266 "2016-07-06T22:37:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/141 "2016-07-09T00:37:53Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > This fall, \*\*Clothahump \*\*is…ADA! The D stands for Dumb. Sure it isn’t for Dunning? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/142 "2016-07-09T00:38:20Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > So, chronologically speaking, this is the finest version of **Clothahump**? A few more centuries he’ll be tying his own shoes. [Jeff Dunham] Some people age like fine wine. **Clothahump** ages like milk.[/JD] ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/143 "2016-07-09T01:57:54Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > But isn’t there a difference between “accidentally emailing the wrong information” and “setting up the infrastructure to maintain data offsite”? Yes, there is a difference. But is “setting up the infrastructure to maintain data offsite” illegal? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/144 "2016-07-09T03:29:58Z")
Hillary is the luckiest woman on Earth. The Friday commentators on NPR agreed that if the Republicans were running even so much as an acceptable human being she’d be in deep trouble, but because they’re running Trump she can’t lose. Trump is so bad that she could even be found in bed with a live woman or a dead boy and she’d still win. And that’s just what we need, isn’t it? Another dishonest Clinton openly doing Clinton things and daring us to do something as we pretend it never happened because the ends justify the means. How did we end up in this mess? This is like puking on a pile of shit. Sophie had a better choice than we do. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/145 "2016-07-09T03:38:26Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Hillary is the luckiest woman on Earth. The Friday commentators on NPR agreed that if the Republicans were running even so much as an acceptable human being she’d be in deep trouble, but because they’re running Trump she can’t lose. Trump is so bad that she could even be found in bed with a live woman or a dead boy and she’d still win. And that’s just what we need, isn’t it? Another dishonest Clinton openly doing Clinton things and daring us to do something as we pretend it never happened because the ends justify the means. > > How did we end up in this mess? This is like puking on a pile of shit. Sophie had a better choice than we do. While we’re miles apart on the Clintons, I agree with you about how bad the choices were this year, especially among the Republicans. I know that there are Republican politicians who aren’t some combination of stupid, crazy, or racist, so why didn’t more than one or two of them run, and why did the ones who did do so poorly when running against the likes of Trump, Cruz, and Carson? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/146 "2016-07-09T03:41:06Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > Hillary is the luckiest woman on Earth. The Friday commentators on NPR agreed that if the Republicans were running even so much as an acceptable human being she’d be in deep trouble, but because they’re running Trump she can’t lose. Trump is so bad that she could even be found in bed with a live woman or a dead boy and she’d still win. And that’s just what we need, isn’t it? Another dishonest Clinton openly doing Clinton things and daring us to do something as we pretend it never happened because the ends justify the means. > > How did we end up in this mess? This is like puking on a pile of shit. Sophie had a better choice than we do. I believe it all started when Mr. Trump took that down escalator to a news conference back in August or so of last year… ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/147 "2016-07-09T04:07:03Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > I understand that you’re an old man. Have you always been this angry and stupid, or do you have some sort of senility/dementia thing going on? Why do you make this an either/or proposition ? ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/148 "2016-07-09T04:19:24Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Yes, there is a difference. But is “setting up the infrastructure to maintain data offsite” illegal? I honestly don’t know. I assume that at least it wasn’t at the time or else the FBI would have recommended prosecution. However, I’m having a difficult time with “extremely careless” on the one hand and “grossly negligent” on the other. If building an infrastructure that stores potentially classified data in an insecure offsite location isn’t grossly negligent, I really can’t imagine what would be. I’ve read the Director’s statement. I wish he had gone into the particulars of the one prosecution under the 1917 law and told how the current case was different. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/149 "2016-07-09T04:54:53Z")
Kinda wondering right now if Comey’s emphasis on “gross negligence” is covering his ass. He knew that he couldn’t make a convincing case for indictment, so tried to serve up a consolation prize, damage Hillary as much as he could without trying to do what he couldn’t. If he said she was mostly just a bit careless and ill-informed, the Republicans would have given him the Bolton Treatment. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/150 "2016-07-09T08:56:28Z")
Why would they take him to [http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/water/about-greater-cincinnati-water-works/water-sources-resource-protection/](http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/water/about-greater-cincinnati-water-works/water-sources-resource-protection/) Cincinnati? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/151 "2016-07-09T10:20:57Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > How did we end up in this mess? Because a very large and vocal group of Republican voters got together and decided that Donald Trump was the best, most qualified man to command the economic and military might of the United States of America. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/152 "2016-07-09T12:02:07Z")
Hillary’s constant lying about this subject is a real bummer. Since the only thing I could reasonably count on Hillary to actually do for me, as a citizen of the country, is to put a Supreme Court justice in that won’t force little girls raped by their uncles to resort to coat hangers, I’ve been ready to vote for an alternative ever since she started campaigning. She revealed her nature to me when she ran against Obama in '08. She’s been detestable ever since. Republicans really could have won my vote this cycle, but since they’re guaranteed to pack the court with the pro-coat-hanger justice of their choice, and they’ve chosen a retarded baboon who loves dictators as their nominee… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/153 "2016-07-09T18:07:44Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > It must be painful to be so stupid. > > Let me explain, as if to a child: First, that statute requires “gross negligence”. Note that the FBI Director was careful not to say Clinton was “grossly negligent”. Second, no one has ever been convicted under that statute in its 99-year history. Third, the FBI Director explicitly stated that he wasn’t sure the statute was constitutional. > > Your extreme partisanship has made it difficult for you to understand facts or reality. Also your stupidity isn’t helping. > > I understand that you’re an old man. Have you always been this angry and stupid, or do you have some sort of senility/dementia thing going on? I predict any response from Cloth-humper will be two words with the initials “FO”. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/154 "2016-07-09T18:32:42Z")
Or perhaps “Good For You.” ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/155 "2016-07-09T18:56:07Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Hillary’s constant lying about this subject is a real bummer. Well, I’m willing to say that there were lies made by Clinton, but not as consequential as the Republicans are claiming. The thing that really bums me is that the Republicans did and continue to lie about the number of lies Clinton made and about why we should continue to give a hoot. And we should not forget the big lie that Republicans told the public about having the “best intentions” that they had in looking **so many times** at Benghazi and then the email server. > **[DomainMarket.com, Claim Your Brand!](https://www.domainmarket.com/buynow/iowadailydemocrat.com)** > > DomainMarket.com sells premium domain names to entrepreneurs, businesses, and nonprofits that want to dominate their online marketplaces and control great brands. > [@](#): > > Republican Congressman Kevin McCarthy shocked his fellow Republicans last week by admitting the Benghazi investigation was politically motivated in an effort to damage Hillary Clinton. In an interview with Sean Hannity on FOX News, McCarthy was bragging about the conservatives’ strategy to take down Hillary Clinton when he blurted out the real reason for the long running Benghazi hearings. > > McCarthy stated in the interview, “Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, right? But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers Friday? What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping. Why? Because she’s untrustable. But no one would have known any of that had happened had we not fought.” > > Democrats have long suspected that these sham hearings were simply more Republican dirty tricks designed to destroy the most likely Democratic Presidential candidate. It’s no secret the Republican Party fears Hillary Clinton and have used the Benghazi hearing as an excuse to derail her candidacy. > > Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD), the committee’s ranking Democrat and one of the most respected House members, responded to McCarthy’s truth telling. “This stunning concession from Rep. McCarthy reveals the truth that Republicans never dared admit in public…The core Republican goal in establishing the Benghazi committee was always to damage Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign and never to conduct an evenhanded search for the facts.” > > E.J. Dionne, writing in The Washington Post, summed it up nicely: “So now we know: One of the principal reasons Republicans spent so much public money investigating the tragic Benghazi episode was to bring down Hillary Clinton’s poll numbers.” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/156 "2016-07-09T19:56:47Z")
Republicans care more about scoring points for their party than running the country. Film at 11. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/157 "2016-07-09T20:06:45Z")
Republicans care about scoring points with their party because they have demonstrated to the entire world they are **totally incapable** of running the country. Or a bake sale, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2016, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/158 "2016-07-09T20:38:16Z")
Oh come on, **Clothahump** , I’m right-wing but I never thought for a moment that Hillary would be indicted, not because a fix would be put in but because it’s been pretty clear all through this that nothing she did justified criminal charges. I don’t like the woman’s politics but this constant cry from some quarters of the Republican party that she’s some kind of felon is absurd and does the party no service at all. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/159 "2016-07-10T13:59:11Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Great galloping Ganesha, you’re just desperate now, man. > > Speaking as a mental health professional: Let it go, if you can. Let go of some of the hate. You’ll feel better for it. What hate? It was a statement of fact, nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266/160 "2016-07-10T14:03:34Z")
> [@Azeotrope](#): > > Because they’re black? Wait, actually that should make them automatically guilty of everything in Clothyworld. I’ve read some incredibly ignorant posts on this board. This one went right into the top 5. If you had even two functioning brain cells to rub together and create a spark, you would have known that I have stated repeatedly that skin color is meaningless. But no, you just had to stick your head as far up your ass as you could just so you could the sound of your stupidity echo as you barfed it out. In the words of the great philosopher Confucius: fuck off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fix-was-in-apparently/759266.md?page=9)