# The Flash (2023) Looks Pretty Great **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [February 13, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720 "2023-02-13T16:54:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/1 "2023-02-13T16:54:51Z")
One of the things I liked best about the recent DC movies was Ezra Miller’s Flash so, drama surrounding the actor notwithstanding, I’ve been excited for this movie for a few years now. The trailer is out and it looks pretty amazing. I think there is stuff here to like even for people who have hated the recent DC slate (and honestly my main issue with them has always been how they handled Superman; there was a lot to like in the rest). Trailer is here: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/hebWYacbdvc/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash – Official Trailer") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hebWYacbdvc) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/2 "2023-02-13T17:09:47Z")
Doesn’t actually look very good at all to me. I’ll pass until it shows up on HBO/Max. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/3 "2023-02-13T17:26:39Z")
The Danny Elfman music when Michael Keaton showed up was a nice touch. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/4 "2023-02-13T17:33:03Z")
It looks like most superhero movies, of which there are an endless supply. However, trailers can do that, and I’m not sure they could do a good superhero movie justice; in two minutes you kinda have to hit a number of key things and can’t really show what will make the movie DIFFERENT. If in fact The Flash is different, it’s hard for them to explain how. Well, beyond the fact that the star is a lunatic. It used to be that if the movie was a deliberately funny superhero romp, like Ant-Man or Shazam, you could highlight the humor, but even that’s been done to death. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/5 "2023-02-13T18:16:05Z")
I’ve been burned too many times by DC trailers, so while I agree the trailer looks good… I simply won’t trust it for the end product. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/6 "2023-02-13T18:16:51Z")
Might have bene better just showing the cowl and no other Batman scenes, t(I also like the music cue) hough I guess the short bit with Kara / Supergirl filled that niche (tease a different superhero) Though with the earlier scene with Bruce Batman was not a shock. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/7 "2023-02-13T18:21:57Z")
I’ve seen a number of articles that came out around the time they cancelled _Batgirl_ that said that even with Miller’s problems, _The Flash_ looks to be too good to drop. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/8 "2023-02-13T18:22:17Z")
I was kind of prepared to just like this trailer, because I’m just tired of the whole Ezra Miller story, but I was pretty much wowed by it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/9 "2023-02-13T19:37:30Z")
Another “Oops, I screwed up the timeline and now the universe is in danger” film? Been there, done that. Nice Batman, though. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/10 "2023-02-13T19:50:12Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > I’ve seen a number of articles that came out around the time they cancelled _Batgirl_ that said that even with Miller’s problems, _The Flash_ looks to be too good to drop. Same thing I’m hearing. It was getting very positive reviews from screenings and studio execs really like the movie. They can’t can it. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/11 "2023-02-13T20:30:24Z")
The best way to treat DC movies is to ignore them unless there’s a groundswell of opinion telling you that a particular movie is very good. Then you can risk wasting your time with it and _maybe_, half the time, you will be rewarded. A trailer will not help you. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/12 "2023-02-13T20:32:21Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > I’ve seen a number of articles that came out around the time they cancelled _Batgirl_ that said that even with Miller’s problems, _The Flash_ looks to be too good to drop. It also fits in with the reset they’re going to do of the DC movies. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/13 "2023-02-13T20:37:32Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Another “Oops, I screwed up the timeline and now the universe is in danger” film? Been there, done that. > > Nice Batman, though. It is far from an original plot (and indeed this movie seems to be right out of several DC comics storylines from the last few years) but what recent Superhero movie did this story? Endgame had time travel but that was more about writing themselves out of the corner they were in which isn’t quite the same. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/14 "2023-02-13T20:47:55Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > It is far from an original plot (and indeed this movie seems to be right out of several DC comics storylines from the last few years) but what recent Superhero movie did this story? _Spider-Man: Homecoming_? He didn’t use time travel to screw up his timeline, but it was about a hero breaking his reality and having to fix it, and meeting alternate versions of other heroes played by actors from previous incarnations of the franchise. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/15 "2023-02-13T21:30:04Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > _Spider-Man: Homecoming_? He didn’t use time travel to screw up his timeline, but it was about a hero breaking his reality and having to fix it, and meeting alternate versions of other heroes played by actors from previous incarnations of the franchise. Did you mean to say _No Way Home_? If so, agreed. I’d like to see Keaton Batman and Supergirl, but that’s it. I get that erasing two Millers would be expensive, but I really wish Grant Gustin was in it instead. And Zod with no Henry Cavill just seems cruel. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/16 "2023-02-13T21:30:06Z")
Not to mention that the CW Flash has already done ‘flash point’ and other time travel shenanigans with Legends of Tomorrow (as well as several other standalone Flash episodes). ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/17 "2023-02-13T21:35:58Z")
You’re right about Spider-Man (that one slipped my mind) but this still seems different. (I will also reiterate it is not an original idea but from the trailer it looks like a good rendition of the story). ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/18 "2023-02-13T21:54:56Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Did you mean to say _No Way Home_? Probably. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/19 "2023-02-13T21:55:47Z")
I thought Ezra Miller’s Flash was the worst part of the Justice League film, and that film was full of terrible things. That has nothing to do with my feelings about Ezra off-screen. I had no idea about any of their misbehavior or problems. Actually, when I had heard about the assaults, harassment, and other issues, all I could think was that the person who played the “awful Barry Allen” was even worse in real life. I will say that from the trailers, it looks like they have two Barry Allens playing like a buddy cop film, one more annoying than the other, and maybe that’s an attempt to make Ezra’s normal character more likeable by comparison. In which case that’s not a terrible idea. I’m not sure if it’ll work, but it’s clever. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720/20 "2023-02-14T00:18:25Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > _Spider-Man: Homecoming_? He didn’t use time travel to screw up his timeline, but it was about a hero breaking his reality and having to fix it, and meeting alternate versions of other heroes played by actors from previous incarnations of the franchise. This felt…exactly like the most recent Spider-man. Are we 100% that the Barry from TV will not appear in this movie? Seems like a big opportunity for them. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-2023-looks-pretty-great/979720.md?page=2)