Back when Cheeks still had a comics page, he had a column up explaining Barry Allen’s speed ability. This did, of course, ignore all the “speed force” stuff.
Remember, Barry was noted for being an exceptionally slow and methodical man as a police scientist. The columnist supposed that his “super-speed” was really a time-distortion effect; that he could work at a hundred times normal speed for short bursts, but needed to live most of the time at, say, 95% normal time-flow to balance the speed episodes.
I recall one issue of the Wally West version of Flash that talked about how he could shift his mind into and out of speed mode. It happened when he was talking to his in-laws and everything word they said was drawn out into minute long sylables. I guess moving at speed for Flash is just like moving faster for regular folks. Just because you’re sprinting, doesn’t mean that time moves by any slower or faster (well until you start approaching the speed of light, then all bets are off.) He has the ability to disconnect from the speed force I guess, kinda like a throttle.
Hell yeah! I thought I was the only one that remembers the live action show :D. Whenever I mention it to someone they just give me this blank stare. I don’t even remember how old I was when I saw it. I do remember one episode where his shoes got trapped by glue and he had to run around barefoot. It’s nice to know I didn’t just imagine the whole thing. Now if I can only find someone that’s seen the live action version of The Tick…
Well I personally like super heros who are not GODS. It makes the story a little better.
In the JL on cartoon network now, which now fills my 10 pm time slot Superman, Hawkgirl, Wonder Woman and the Matian Manhunter are all pretty much GODS walking the earth. Gee I wonder who’ll win.
Right now they are running the time travel to WWII era where a bad has some future tech that is allowing the Nazis to win. They have Steve Trevor and they have this group of pilots. Is that group from a Golden Era book? Also very frustrating is that with GL’s power ring out he is not saying “it takes a lot more than a power ring to be a Green Lantern”. Why the hell not?
Just trying to understand this power. Is it even physically possible to vibrate one solid object through another solid object? Like have scientists actually done an experiment, and ended up with a metal bar through a brick wall?
Also, in the comics, was there anything that a speedster could not vibrate through? Like a force field or something?
GL: His ring lets him do ANYTHING, and he just uses it to make green baseball bats. A friend has a theory the Oans pick the GL’s based on their non-inventiveness.
Flash: Can take out a room full of thugs in under a second, but put him up against the main villain, and suddenly he sucks. Most villains shouldn’t be able to even think as fast as Flash can act. So, by the time they even realize that the flash is there, they should be KO’s by a 1000MPH punch.
Supes: Why does one of the most powerful men in the universe have so many normal humans as his main villains? Toyman? Lex Luthor? As Batman once told Supes “If I had your power, I could clean up Gotham in one night”.
Wonder Woman: How does a woman, who can lift countless tons, not have muscles dense enough that she doesn’t need to deflect bullets?
Firestorm: Why not just turn the air in a person’s lungs into CO2 and keep it that way until the person passes out?
See, the problem with many DC heroes is that they are too powerful to make good plot for on a regular basis. So, the writers dumb them down or amp them up as the plot sees fit.
I still think Plastic man (when he was in) was the most powerful Leaguer.
Hawkgirl. a God? Hardly. She flies. And has a sparky mace.
To be fair, sghoul Wonder Woman’s strength is magical in nature. It doesn’t necessarily mean her muscles are super-dense and able to stop a bullet.
I have no problem with the watered down versions of our heroes. It’s a justice league tradition. It can go too far. When gas takes out Superman, or when Flash has trouble catching up to a truck (or dodging some flying rubble), that’s just sloppiness.
Still, it may be better than every other enemy building a cage of flaming yellow kryptonite.
No, I’ve never heard of anyone actually vibrating one object through another. I doubt that it can be done. 1950’s comic writers played pretty fast and loose with their “scientific justification”.
I suppose it's about as plausible as a man whose entire body will withstand nuclear explosions, but can still kiss Lois Lane without his beard stubble cutting her face to ribbons. :)
In the Crisis storyline, Flash was trapped in some sort of gel, which he couldn’t vibrate out of. I assume trapping a speedster would be something like tuning your phasers to punch through Starfleet shields… theoretically easy, but hard to match the frequencies.
Hawk Girl’s wings aren’t real. She flies by means of an Nth metal (yes, Nth metal) belt. the wings are for control, and looks. Her mace is made up for the cartoon, and I doubt it can break ANYTHING. She has never tried it on anything real tough.
As for WW, ok her strength is magical. Would it be too much to magically give her tougher skin? If magic can give it Captain Marvel, it can give it to Wonder Woman. It’s just a doofy excuse for her to have to use her bracelets.
And, seeing as Plastic man has survived being disintegrated and spread into the oceans for 3000 years, I would say he would survive some heat vision. Besides, seeing as he seems to actually gain the abilities of that which he mimics (when he is a light, he gives off light. If he turns into a can of bug spray, he spray’s bug spray), he could just mimic some kryptonite, and bye bye Supes But lets face it, Plas is a plot device…and that is why I think he is so powerful, becuase he can do whatever the writers think would be funny.
In the “War World” episode of the cartoon, Shayera batted a planet-busting ray back into its ultra-cannon with that mace. While flying, yet. If that’s not tough, I don’t know what is. Unless you mean she hasn’t tried to smash something made of whatever it is that Chemo was made from.
Upstream a ways, Zebra was asking about the WWII time-travel episodes. I would suggest Googling for “Blackhawk” for details on the group of aviators.
He’s the bad guy from xmen who absorbs powers by bashing people with a spike and he has adamantium armor and about every power in existence(in x-men)(or something along that line).He’s supposed to be omnipotent…
So, they both can really kick ass.
Bigger hijack:
If the Flash can’t kill him, can Mr.Mxypltk or Q of star trek kill Omega red?
But lets face it, Plas is a plot device…and that is why I think he is so powerful, becuase he can do whatever the writers think would be funny.