# The Flash: s02 e06—Enter Zoom

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 11, 2015, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264 "2015-11-11T05:07:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/1 "2015-11-11T05:07:03Z")

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**Enter Zoom:**

“Barry engineers a dangerous plan to defeat Zoom, but Caitlin sides with Jay and deems it too dangerous for Barry to engage with the speed demon. However, Iris shows her support and brings forth a surprising ally.”

So, I think it’s pretty obvious Joe from Earth-2 is Zoom.

Of course, I’m probably way off.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/2 "2015-11-11T11:47:38Z")

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Some seriously good banter in this episode - between Barry and Patty, between Cisco and Wells-2, among all of Team Flash. The best line, though, came from Linda: “I made out with the Flash?!”

Zoom was appropriately terrifying. Maybe Jay should have warned Barry that his throw lightning trick wouldn’t work on him?

I don’t think Joe-2 is Zoom. My money is on Henry Allen-2.

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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/3 "2015-11-11T12:54:52Z")

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I cringed when Barry took that blow to the back. I half expected Zoom to show up at Barry’s high school reunion, “Look at your chess club president now!”.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/4 "2015-11-11T14:35:00Z")

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So Linda-2 sold them out? I can’t think of any other reason for Zoom to swipe Linda-1 except Dr. Light found and warned him about the trap in exchange for getting out her deal with him and replacing Linda on Earth-1.

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**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/5 "2015-11-11T16:30:01Z")

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Re: the Henry Allen is Zoom hypothesis – did you catch the Earth-2 news story that Robert Queen (Oliver Queen’s father) had been revealed as the Green Arrow?

Also – has there been any explanation of what happened to Gideon the super-computer that Fake Dr. Wells installed in S.T.A.R labs? Are we supposed to presume that it just disappeared when Eobard Thawn was erased from existence?

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/6 "2015-11-11T17:23:14Z")

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> [@epbrown01](#):
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> So Linda-2 sold them out? I can’t think of any other reason for Zoom to swipe Linda-1 except Dr. Light found and warned him about the trap in exchange for getting out her deal with him and replacing Linda on Earth-1.

I got the impression that Linda 2 just got the hell out of there and that Zoom was just a step ahead of them the whole time.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/7 "2015-11-11T17:37:06Z")

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Patty is right: babies going through tunnels are hilarious.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3iBaN-758)

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/8 "2015-11-11T19:23:37Z")

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Cisco’s track record with inadvertently assisting super villains is disturbing. Piper, Captain Cold, Golden Glider, Dr. Light… Maybe the Earth-2 Cisco will show up and say, “Dude, seriously?”

Also, he didn’t tell the others about his vibe of “Jessie” right away? Seriously?

Is Barry going to use Harrison Wells’ wheelchair? Bet his dad’s coming back to town, now. Wonder if Jay will show up next week. Also, how’s Jay earning a living?

If Barry doesn’t recover next week, will Kendra? take on Grodd?

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**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/9 "2015-11-11T19:25:07Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> I don’t think Joe-2 is Zoom. My money is on Henry Allen-2.

That’s the way I’d bet. [This picture of Zoom](http://imgur.com/cEO0wRU) was posted in the last thread. Notice the wrinkles in the corners of his eyes? They stood immediately out to me. Now look at [this picture of Barry’s dad](http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsS/tve15861-3519-20141209-0.jpg). Are those the same wrinkles?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/10 "2015-11-11T19:27:58Z")

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:smack:

I flubbed the season number in the title. I reported it for a mod to fix.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/11 "2015-11-11T19:33:41Z")

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> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#):
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> That’s the way I’d bet. [This picture of Zoom](http://imgur.com/cEO0wRU) was posted in the last thread. Notice the wrinkles in the corners of his eyes? They stood immediately out to me. Now look at [this picture of Barry’s dad](http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsS/tve15861-3519-20141209-0.jpg). Are those the same wrinkles?

Interesting. That’d really mess with Barry’s head if Zoom turned out to be Henry.

And I hope it’s true. How cool to go from being the original Flash to playing his arch-enemy. Always enjoy John Wesley Shipp, so if that’ll earn him more screen time, all the better.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/12 "2015-11-11T20:07:54Z")

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Fixed the title for you.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/13 "2015-11-12T16:13:12Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> Interesting. That’d really mess with Barry’s head if Zoom turned out to be Henry.
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> And I hope it’s true. How cool to go from being the original Flash to playing his arch-enemy. Always enjoy John Wesley Shipp, so if that’ll earn him more screen time, all the better.

That \*would \*be pretty awesome.

I kept thinking, though, that Zoom sounded an awful lot like Tony Todd.

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**Author:** ![Gothic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Gothic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gothic)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/14 "2015-11-12T16:19:21Z")

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Yes, I said candyman twice. Then I thought of his DS9 tear jerker episode. Zoom is scary, leather face mixed with some Nightmare on Elm street. It doesn’t help that he is petty. I hope Grodd looks as good as he did last time we saw him.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02-e06-enter-zoom/737264/15 "2015-11-12T17:27:09Z")

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Huh. Looks like I was right- it is Tony Todd doing the [voice](http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/the-flash-zoom-tony-todd-season-2-villain-1201581891/)of Zoom. Just the voice, though- Zoom will likely be played by someone else.
