# The Flash S02E11: The Return of the Reverse Flash

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 27, 2016, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02e11-the-return-of-the-reverse-flash/744354 "2016-01-27T07:55:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02e11-the-return-of-the-reverse-flash/744354/21 "2016-02-01T15:58:02Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> By the way, one of the more ridiculous moments of this episode was when Caitlin asked Jay about his missing doppleganger. “Meet me tomorrow,” he responded, “I can’t tell you - you have to see for yourself.”
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> _Tomorrow_
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> “That guy over there is me and he has a different name.”
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> WHY exactly couldn’t he just tell her that to begin with?

I was predicting that the Jay Garrick of this world would be dead, and he was taking her to see his grave. Which would still be pointless but at least would have the impact of seeing a gravestone with his name on it.

> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> While there are indeed a number of speedsters, I think the writers have done a good job of keeping the non-Barry speedsters out of the picture. We really haven’t seen a lot of Zoom. Jay Garrick lost his speed. Reverse Flash got sent back to the future in the same episode he re-appeared. We don’t even know if Wally West is going to get fast this season, let alone Jesse Quick. Of course, they could all be speeding around by the season finale.

I get the feeling that the Flash will be making a quick time jump to the future, either at the end of this season or beginning of next season. Then he’ll see all the other speedsters. Or Cisco will have a vibe of Wally as the future Flash.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02e11-the-return-of-the-reverse-flash/744354/22 "2016-02-01T17:10:48Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> I still don’t give a shit about Iris. She seems to be completely unnecessary. On the other hand I really like Patty, so it’s a bugger that she’s leaving just because Barry hasn’t learned the lesson of keeping secrets from his friends and family is a really stupid idea that never solves anything.
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> In conclusion, I wish Iris was gone and Patty was back.

I haven’t minded Iris as much this season, partly because she’s part of the team now, not on the outside pining over the mysterious Flash.

But it is annoying how Barry won’t learn anything about keeping secrets. He kept his identity secret from Iris to keep her safe, but she was still kidnapped at least once before she knew who the Flash was. And the same thing happened with Patty, where she was kidnapped by the villain even though she didn’t know who the Flash was. So if Barry had been upfront about who he was, both Iris and Patty could have been at least a little more prepared.

> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I was predicting that the Jay Garrick of this world would be dead, and he was taking her to see his grave. Which would still be pointless but at least would have the impact of seeing a gravestone with his name on it.

That’s what I was thinking too. Or maybe that Earth 1 version would be in the hospital in such bad shape that he would be no use. But going to the park and pointing him out, and only then saying that it doesn’t matter since his DNA wouldn’t help was a weird way of showing things.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02e11-the-return-of-the-reverse-flash/744354/23 "2016-02-01T18:37:14Z")

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I suspect that in the season finale, Wally’s going to be racing when he gets hit with dark matter. That way, his months-long coma can be during the summer and he’ll wake up in next season’s premiere a speedster.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-s02e11-the-return-of-the-reverse-flash/744354/24 "2016-02-01T23:24:08Z")

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> [@Sam\_Lowry](#):
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> I haven’t minded Iris as much this season, partly because she’s part of the team now, not on the outside pining over the mysterious Flash.

Barely. She doesn’t really get involved in any of it, she has nothing useful to contribute to their adventures.

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