# The Flash Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475 "2017-10-10T12:11:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/201 "2018-02-07T19:30:18Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Not Leonard. Last time we saw the Waverider, Leo Snart from Earth-X was still aboard, doing puppet therapy. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/202 "2018-02-14T02:16:33Z")
Did a new episode actually air tonight? The episode guide says there’s supposed to be, but apparently CTV aired Don’t Run again… ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/203 "2018-02-14T02:24:21Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > Did a new episode actually air tonight? The episode guide says there’s supposed to be, but apparently CTV aired Don’t Run again… No, any listing that said tonight’s episode was new was in error. _The Flash_ is on a two-week hiatus, ostensibly because of the Winter Olympics. Episode 14, _Subject 9_, will air on February 27, 2018. > **[Is The Flash new tonight, February 13?](https://fansided.com/2018/02/13/is-the-flash-new-tonight-february-13/)** > > We tell you if there is a new episode of The Flash season 4 on Tuesday, February 13, or if the Winter Olympics are the one foe too strong for Barry. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/204 "2018-02-14T02:35:23Z")
Ah, that’s a relief… ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/205 "2018-02-28T17:19:43Z")
The AVclub review of this episode ([Team Flash gets played like a fiddle as the dour DeVoe saga continues](https://www.avclub.com/team-flash-gets-played-like-a-fiddle-as-the-dour-devoe-1823335201)) has a great line: " The next step is to take Izzy back to STAR Labs so Barry can reveal his secret identity. When I think about the fact that Barry refused to identify himself as the Flash to keep himself out of prison, I can only imagine that was because his plan was to introduce himself to everyone in Central City one by one." ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/206 "2018-02-28T18:34:48Z")
I think Barry should’ve suited up and had the initial meet with Izzy as the Flash. Going in his civvies won’t impress anybody. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/207 "2018-02-28T22:46:35Z")
The show is failing to entertain me lately but thankfully Legends has stepped it up lately. The plot line so far is really stupid as is DeVoe. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/208 "2018-03-01T01:07:05Z")
So was that actress a country star? She was talented (and very pretty). ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/209 "2018-03-01T01:29:23Z")
**Miranda MacDougall** [Miranda MacDougall - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm9356386/) Does not appear to be a country star. Funny, I thought her looks were nothing special by Flash standards. But to each their own. I liked the Chipmunk better. Sugar Lyn Beard is just very cute to me. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/210 "2018-03-01T01:44:52Z")
so, the girl who wounded defoe on first encounter without a fiddle in her hand, defeated stretch with a whistle - cant even think of a way to to do ‘something’ when the barrier went up? during the monologue she couldn’t think to do something? I’m guessing just screaming would have been sufficient. Or are we to assume that Devoe was in her brain stopping her? Because otherwise - that made absolutely no sense and was very disappointing. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/211 "2018-03-01T15:03:48Z")
> [@simster](#): > > so, the girl who wounded defoe on first encounter without a fiddle in her hand, defeated stretch with a whistle - cant even think of a way to to do ‘something’ when the barrier went up? during the monologue she couldn’t think to do something? I’m guessing just screaming would have been sufficient. > > Or are we to assume that Devoe was in her brain stopping her? > > Because otherwise - that made absolutely no sense and was very disappointing. All they had to do was have one shot of her screaming and Devoe stopping her somehow. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/212 "2018-03-01T15:42:53Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > All they had to do was have one shot of her screaming and Devoe stopping her somehow. exactly. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/213 "2018-03-01T16:11:42Z")
I’m glad that the captain addressed the fact that a fake Devoe wasn’t that strange for Central City. Of course, they big question would be, “Then who was the dead body we found in Barry’s apartment?” ---
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/214 "2018-03-02T16:26:55Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I’m glad that the captain addressed the fact that a fake Devoe wasn’t that strange for Central City. Of course, they big question would be, “Then who was the dead body we found in Barry’s apartment?” Didn’t season 1 feature a metahuman who could assume the form of anyone s/he touched? ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/215 "2018-03-03T01:19:23Z")
Mrs. Devoe: “Are you sure all this body-switching hasn’t affected your cognitive abilities?” The audience: “Well, SOMETHING must have!” ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/216 "2018-03-08T02:49:32Z")
Nice to see an episode of the Flash that featured superspeed again. (I have not missed a villainous speedster at all, though.) And FlashTime should make it clear that Barry can always go fast enough to stop the villain. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/217 "2018-03-08T02:52:19Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > Nice to see an episode of the Flash that featured superspeed again. (I have not missed a villainous speedster at all, though.) And FlashTime should make it clear that Barry can always go fast enough to stop the villain. It’s actually kind of _smack-you-in-the-face-with-it_ that he got there so late, with his dad in mortal peril, given that he made it back to the lab and back to the scene of the crime and back to the lab and back to the scene of the crime in that one instant. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/218 "2018-03-08T04:27:37Z")
It was an awesome episode. It would have made a great comic book story. And it was a welcome break from the DaVoe story arc. Always good to see John Wesley Shipp return as Jay Garrick. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/219 "2018-03-09T22:01:36Z")
When Jesse said the bomb had “3 million tons of energy”, I immediately thought of this Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal comic: > **[Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - 2010-02-26](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2010-02-26)** > > Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - 2010-02-26 ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/220 "2018-03-10T00:11:07Z")
They couldn’t get through the episode without some bad science, of course. After saying that the bomb had “3 million tons of energy”, Jesse clarified by saying this was “three megatons.” That made sense. She was measuring its warhead yield in its TNT equivalent, like the nuclear weapon people do. **BUT THEN** , both she _and Barry Allen_ (who should know better) said that this was equal to “three billion joules.” If 3,000,000 tons of TNT only produces 3 billion joules, that means a pound of TNT only produces half a joule. If TNT were that wimpy, we’d be using it to light matches, not blow people up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=12)