# The Flash Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475 "2017-10-10T12:11:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/41 "2017-10-26T18:36:21Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > I hope we meet Jessie and the Quicksters at some point. I wonder if Wally is going to start his own team as well. I read a rumor that Wally may be joining the Legends. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/42 "2017-10-26T18:37:38Z")
1. I’d like to see Max Mercury and Impulse both show up. 2. Iris doesn’t seem to have an actual job (maybe she’s freelancing an article or two a week for Picture News) and Barry is a police forensics guy…which probably has ok pay, but nothing astounding. So how are they affording that giant 3000 foot(?) penthouse apartment? Oh, and the “This house is bitchin’!” stuff will refer to Joe’s new home. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/43 "2017-10-26T18:41:30Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I read a rumor that Wally may be joining the Legends. On one hand, he’s remarkably overpowered compared to the rest of them. On the other, that hasn’t stopped them before. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/44 "2017-10-26T18:46:23Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > … > 2) Iris doesn’t seem to have an actual job (maybe she’s freelancing an article or two a week for Picture News) and Barry is a police forensics guy…which probably has ok pay, but nothing astounding. So how are they affording that giant 3000 foot(?) penthouse apartment? > … Did you forget Barry does side work as the world’s fastest contractor? 😃 Speaking of which, with 2 speedsters for sons, why didn’t they fix the old homestead back up? Both are handy. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/45 "2017-10-26T18:49:49Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > I read a rumor that Wally may be joining the Legends. Nate teamed up with Wally a few weeks ago after Rip had dismissed them. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/46 "2017-10-26T19:05:43Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > They did mention Ralph Dibny as a fatality in the particle accelerator explosion, but that was pre “Flashpoint”. [spoiler]Presumed fatality. Ralph Dibney is confirmed to appear in next week’s episode, titled “Elongated Journey Into Night.” [https://www.google.com/amp/tvline.com/2017/10/25/flash-season-4-episode-4-photos-danny-trejo-elongated-man/amp/](https://www.google.com/amp/tvline.com/2017/10/25/flash-season-4-episode-4-photos-danny-trejo-elongated-man/amp/) [/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/47 "2017-10-26T21:25:28Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > Also, that was the slowest slot machine ever. Plus … do people usually ask for a slot machine’s cherry to pop? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/48 "2017-10-26T21:29:15Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > 1. I’d like to see Max Mercury and Impulse both show up. > > 2. Iris doesn’t seem to have an actual job (maybe she’s freelancing an article or two a week for Picture News) and Barry is a police forensics guy…which probably has ok pay, but nothing astounding. So how are they affording that giant 3000 foot(?) penthouse apartment? > > Oh, and the “This house is bitchin’!” stuff will refer to Joe’s new home. Joe already referred to his current house as “bitchin’” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/49 "2017-10-26T22:12:23Z")
> [@AlsoNamedBort](#): > > On one hand, he’s remarkably overpowered compared to the rest of them. On the other, that hasn’t stopped them before. Firestorm _should_ be in the same league as Wally, but… ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/50 "2017-10-26T22:15:03Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Firestorm _should_ be in the same league as Wally, but… Stein has to stay on the ship for some reason? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/51 "2017-10-26T23:52:59Z")
Presumably, Stein is going to retire from the Legends to spend time getting to know his daughter and his grandchild since Victor Garber will be leaving _Legends of Tomorrow_ to go to Broadway. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/52 "2017-11-01T05:49:29Z")
This episode was hilarious. Danny Trejo does ‘comically serious’ even better than Leslie Nielsen. Casting him as Breacher was a brilliant choice. The guy playing Dibney was also brilliantly cast…short of maybe Conan O’Brien, I can’t imagine anyone looking more like Ralph. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/53 "2017-11-01T08:22:09Z")
Danny Trejo played the most menacing Josh in the multiverse. I like how the B-plot intersected with the A-plot instead of being mere character development and comic relief. (The A-plot by itself was already pretty funny.) I trust we’ll see more of Breacher in the future. I am unfamiliar with comic-book Elongated Man, being more acquainted with Plastic Man. As portrayed in this episode their personalities seem to be quite similar. Is Ralph Dibny supposed to be like, well, Jim Carrey? I guess the writers acknowledged the similarity by Cisco trying to actually name him Plastic Man. So Devoe was actually mentioned a couple times last season. Now were those just throwaway lines that the writers took advantage of, or did they actually plan to featue the Thinker from that far back? ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/54 "2017-11-01T09:28:56Z")
Dibney is (in the comics) a better detective than Batman. His stretching powers are kind of incidental to the character. He’s nowhere near as wacky as Carry or Plastic Man. He was based loosely (very, _VERY_ loosely) on the Dashill Hammet’s “Thin Man”. There’s one minor continuity error (film continuity, not comic book trivia). Most of the episode, Dibney had a sort of bowl cut/bangs. But when he was fixing his gut, his hair was all big and poofy like Barry’s. I’m surprised that Gypsy let Breacher get away with his shennigans. The actor was fantastic, but the character was just silly. Also…“Plastoids” destroyed his world? Bwah? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/55 "2017-11-01T10:24:24Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > Dibney is (in the comics) a better detective than Batman. His stretching powers are kind of incidental to the character. Heck, his stretching powers are _literally_ incidental to his sleuthing: he didn’t, as per this episode, luck into being a super; he did the research and deduced the answer. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/56 "2017-11-01T13:44:26Z")
As much as I love seeing Danny Trejo as The Scariest Josh Ever, I was really hoping they’d go a different direction with Gypsy’s parentage. It’s always bothered me that Gypsy’s powers are exactly the same as Cisco’s. And that she even \*looks \*like Cisco- I mean, seriously, they’re pretty identical. I was really hoping her parents would come through a portal and Cisco would say, “Mom? DAD?! Oh crap…” ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/57 "2017-11-01T19:06:43Z")
Another fun episode. So is Elongated Man a regular now? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/58 "2017-11-01T19:10:29Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Another fun episode. So is Elongated Man a regular now? It looks like it and expect to see Kid Flash move to another show I believe. I’ve heard Legends\* or a new show mentioned. - Here I think ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/59 "2017-11-01T19:11:07Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Another fun episode. So is Elongated Man a regular now? It seems so. Unlike the previous two metas, he didn’t end up in prison. And it seems like it took four weeks for Ralph’s powers to manifest themselves. At least he seemed pretty freaked out until Caitlin managed to stabilize him. “Bullet booger. Gross!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/60 "2017-11-01T20:37:39Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Presumably, Stein is going to retire from the Legends to spend time getting to know his daughter and his grandchild since Victor Garber will be leaving _Legends of Tomorrow_ to go to Broadway. But then how will Jefferson get his weekly Firestorm fix? We know if the two of them don’t recombine every so often, they get sick. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=4)