# The Flash Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475 "2017-10-10T12:11:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/61 "2017-11-01T20:39:33Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > But then how will Jefferson get his weekly Firestorm fix? We know if the two of them don’t recombine every so often, they get sick. As of the end of the episode, Jefferson & Ray are working on it and the across time phone the Prof just made might prove to be part of the key. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/62 "2017-11-01T20:52:20Z")
Mentioning prison reminded me, was Barry’s comment the first time they acknowledged on the show how bad it was the first couple of seasons they were locking metas up with no trial? ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2017, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/63 "2017-11-01T20:54:11Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Mentioning prison reminded me, was Barry’s comment the first time they acknowledged on the show how bad it was the first couple of seasons they were locking metas up with no trial? I think so. Their pipeline prison always really bothered me. Apparently the prisoners didn’t even have toilets- it always looked like they were just locked in a single, small room. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/64 "2017-11-02T01:36:06Z")
Lots of fun in this episode. Only one continuity issue irritated me - if Ralph Dibney was a cop who worked with Barry, and was thrown off the force in a very newsworthy sequence of events, you’d think that Iris West, Barry’s foster-sister, daughter of a cop and fiancee of a different police officer, would be familiar with the name and with why both Barry and Joe don’t think much of him. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/65 "2017-11-02T02:08:09Z")
Ralph’s nose twitched. It made watching the whole run of the series worthwhile for me. I’ve been waiting to see that since I was a kid in the 1960’s. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/66 "2017-11-02T13:34:16Z")
CW just released a new poster for the show, which I think is particularly cool: [Frost Warning](https://i.redd.it/j1ryc34k29vz.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/67 "2017-11-02T17:55:55Z")
“Elongated Journey into Night” is probably my all-time favorite title of an episode. My husband yelled, “Stretch, Ralph, stretch!” at the climactic moment. In the comics, Ralph and Barry were best friends, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/68 "2017-11-08T08:54:30Z")
This could have been one of the better, funnier episodes. Barry’s bachelor party gone wrong and girls save the city. But they had to shoehorn in that completely unnecessary #Feminism reference. _The Flash_ writers should have taken some tips from the _Supergirl_ writers. The latter have learned to show us feminism in action without hitting us over the head with it and patting themselves in the back about it. Plus was it necessary to have Cecille’s daughter be a stripper “for research”? On the plus side, Killer Frost is always a welcome sight. And Katee Sackhoff had some fun chewing the scenery and faking an East London accent. They let her go, so we know she’ll be back. On the sad side, doesn’t Iris have any friends? They even had to import one from Star City just so her bachelorette part wouldn’t be entirely pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/69 "2017-11-08T13:11:31Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > This could have been one of the better, funnier episodes. Barry’s bachelor party gone wrong and girls save the city. But they had to shoehorn in that completely unnecessary #Feminism reference. _The Flash_ writers should have taken some tips from the _Supergirl_ writers. The latter have learned to show us feminism in action without hitting us over the head with it and patting themselves in the back about it. Plus was it necessary to have Cecille’s daughter be a stripper “for research”? It’s not a female-driven show like _Supergirl_, so I can see why the writers made feminism in action a pointed point. I loved how they all took control of the situation. (As an aside I’m quite enjoying this season so far with more comic emphasis and less angsty Barry, But that’s another story). As for Iris not having other friends – there are a lot of women out there like her whose coworkers are mostly male and/or who are dedicated to their profession. They tend not to have time to foster friendships outside of that realm. It’s a age-old issue, especially as one grows older. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/70 "2017-11-08T13:14:05Z")
Did anybody else notice that Caitlin’s ticket was for Ferris Air? ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/71 "2017-11-08T13:37:01Z")
> [@kiz](#): > > It’s not a female-driven show like _Supergirl_, so I can see why the writers made feminism in action a pointed point. I loved how they all took control of the situation. Yeah, except they totally fucked up the situation and let the villain get away AND wound up getting the Crying Man or whatever his name was run away and land in trouble with someone else. It would have been a better idea to hold Starbuck for the cops and the Weeper for an ambulance. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/72 "2017-11-08T14:37:40Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > … > > On the sad side, doesn’t Iris have any friends? They even had to import one from Star City just so her bachelorette part wouldn’t be entirely pathetic. Just a thought, she just spent over a year, first worried she was going to die on a set date and then grieving for Barry and doing a serious work-a-holic thing running “Team Flash”. She probably grew apart from her female friends but will probably have some old friends from HS & College at the wedding. Not the best explanation but I think it is workable. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/73 "2017-11-08T16:59:24Z")
I hope this isn’t the style of humour for the rest of the season. Ralph and Barry’s Cringe Double Act was unwatchable. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/74 "2017-11-08T17:05:30Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Did anybody else notice that Caitlin’s ticket was for Ferris Air? Better question, did any comic book fan NOT notice that? Worst case of letting bad guy escape yet. I can understand not wanting to commit murder, but couldn’t Killer Frost freeze her feet in place, encase her in ice, or something else like that? I know why, from a narrative viewpoint, they don’t want the bad guys captured, but my forehead hurts from watching that. :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/75 "2017-11-08T17:41:26Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Better question, did any comic book fan NOT notice that? > > Worst case of letting bad guy escape yet. I can understand not wanting to commit murder, but couldn’t Killer Frost freeze her feet in place, encase her in ice, or something else like that? I know why, from a narrative viewpoint, they don’t want the bad guys captured, but my forehead hurts from watching that. > > :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: Yeah and why not tell Barry about it? Why not give him and Joe a chance to clean up the mess they made? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/76 "2017-11-08T18:58:33Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Better question, did any comic book fan NOT notice that? I like the little Easter eggs the writers throw in for the fans. Ferris Air, Kord Industries. Ollie even mentioned Bruce Wayne by name on _Arrow_ a couple of weeks ago. Even if we don’t explicitly see the Green Lantern, or Blue Beetle, or Batman at any time, it’s nice to see the acknowledgement of the possibility that those characters exist somewhere in the multiverse. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/77 "2017-11-08T19:05:55Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Yeah, except they totally fucked up the situation and let the villain get away AND wound up getting the Crying Man or whatever his name was run away and land in trouble with someone else. It would have been a better idea to hold Starbuck for the cops and the Weeper for an ambulance. Weeper is an idiot. He’s been held hostage for an indefinite length of time. He’s been freed from the person holding him hostage - but that person is on the loose. Why would he choose to go out on his own? That’s just asking to get recaptured _by the same person_. I realize they wanted to do that for plot reasons, but it made no sense for the character to not at least ask for an escort to a hiding place (even if he didn’t want to stick with Team Flash). Drunk Barry was fun. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2017, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/78 "2017-11-08T19:12:03Z")
So when Felicity mentioned the Hulk was she refering to a Comic Book character in the Arrowverse or are they somehow aware of the Hulk? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2017, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/79 "2017-11-09T03:38:01Z")
Cisco: It’s no good being the “Designated Hero” if no one can reach you to call for help. Just keep your phone in your pocket (they’re not going to frisk you) and check your messages in the bathroom once in a while. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/80 "2017-11-10T03:54:45Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > So when Felicity mentioned the Hulk was she refering to a Comic Book character in the Arrowverse or are they somehow aware of the Hulk? Back during the first crossover, when there were only two shows, Thea remarked that a group of superheroes hiding out in a farm was something she had seen in a movie, implying she had seen _Age of Ultron_. There have since been a number of Marvel-related quips, from which we can infer that Marvel comics and movies exist in the Arrowverse; their characters remain fictional. Any DC-related references, like Ferris Air in this episode or Bruce Wayne being mentioned recently in _Arrow_, always indicate that those characters actually exist in the Arrowverse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=5)