# The Flash Season 4

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 10, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475 "2017-10-10T12:11:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/141 "2018-01-18T17:51:23Z")

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> [@tracer](#):
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> All good points his attorney should have brought up. (Although the lack of blood splatter on Barry’s clothing could easily be explained away by claiming he changed clothes after the murder.)

Then where are the bloody clothes? Is there a glove involved? does it fit?

huh?

still waiting…  
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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/142 "2018-01-18T18:40:42Z")

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Something I’m not clear on: Devoe took over Dominic’s body. Is Dominic dead? Or is his consciousness in his body, but suppressed? Or somewhere else? Has this been established?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/143 "2018-01-18T20:49:36Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> Something I’m not clear on: Devoe took over Dominic’s body. Is Dominic dead? Or is his consciousness in his body, but suppressed? Or somewhere else? Has this been established?

This has not been addressed at all. It’ll probably be a plot point at the end of season.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/144 "2018-01-18T22:11:36Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> This has not been addressed at all. It’ll probably be a plot point at the end of season.

In which case, I suspect there will be a scene in which Barry will be shouting, “Dominic! I know you’re in there! Fight it!” or words to that effect. Essentially, “Think, Dominic, think!”

I suspect Devoe will be beaten by something he overlooked. Because that would be so ironic.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/145 "2018-01-18T22:15:50Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> In which case, I suspect there will be a scene in which Barry will be shouting, “Dominic! I know you’re in there! Fight it!” or words to that effect. Essentially, “Think, Dominic, think!”
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> I suspect Devoe will be beaten by something he overlooked. Because that would be so ironic.

IIRC, they established last season that — in the original timeline — DeVoe got beaten by dint of Team Flash rigging up some kind of cerebral inhibitor.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/146 "2018-01-19T05:49:36Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> Something I’m not clear on: Devoe took over Dominic’s body. Is Dominic dead? Or is his consciousness in his body, but suppressed? Or somewhere else? Has this been established?

There was a line in the latest episode where he was talking to his wife. He said something about the two of them being together in his head.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/147 "2018-01-19T13:34:38Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> IIRC, they established last season that — in the original timeline — DeVoe got beaten by dint of Team Flash rigging up some kind of cerebral inhibitor.

That might be it - DeVoe defeated because Team Flash has information from the future that he can’t anticipate them having…

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/148 "2018-01-22T15:32:02Z")

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Another stupid thing from this episode: Okay, you don’t want the public to know you’re the Flash. Why not tell the judge and prosecutor in private?

I was irritated that they kept making the prosecutor look like a bad guy, considering he was doing _Cecille’s job_. I think they would’ve had a stronger episode if he had been introduced in the past as some “anti-Flash, vigilantes are dangerous” kinda guy to put a roadblock in.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/149 "2018-01-22T15:42:14Z")

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Barry goes on 6 month sabatical - Flash is missing

Barry goes to jail - Flash is missing

I’m starting to sense a pattern that could easily be figured out…

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/150 "2018-01-22T19:19:08Z")

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> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#):
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> In which case, I suspect there will be a scene in which Barry will be shouting, “Dominic! I know you’re in there! Fight it!” or words to that effect. Essentially, “Think, Dominic, think!”
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> I suspect Devoe will be beaten by something he overlooked. Because that would be so ironic.

No, because it’s Dominic (and Flash) it will be “Feel, Dominic, Feel!”

But, yeah.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/151 "2018-01-24T02:21:25Z")

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First time I’ve seen Corinne Bohrer in many years. She did a great job reprising her role as Zoey Clark / Prank. I like the way the series does that.

It was finally a fun episode again.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/152 "2018-01-24T02:25:21Z")

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Barry-in-Prison is turning out to be more fun than expected. I liked this one. People who watch Legends of Tomorrow will note the reappearance of Beebo (the toy). Is the woman who bought Dibny and Cisco the coffee the usher at Barry’s wedding, who is possibly Barry’s descendant from the future?

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/153 "2018-01-24T02:36:00Z")

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Did not see a listing on IMDB as to who played her, but it sure looks that way.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/154 "2018-01-24T02:42:01Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Barry-in-Prison is turning out to be more fun than expected. I liked this one. People who watch Legends of Tomorrow will note the reappearance of Beebo (the toy). Is the woman who bought Dibny and Cisco the coffee the usher at Barry’s wedding, who is possibly Barry’s descendant from the future?

The Beebos appearance was great. I’m not sure it was the same woman but you could well be right.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/155 "2018-01-24T02:49:46Z")

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> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> The Beebos appearance was great. I’m not sure it was the same woman but you could well be right.

Judging from what I’ve found on the Internet it’s the same actress - and note that she’s taking notes in the same kind of symbols that Barry wrote after he got out of the Speed Force.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/156 "2018-01-24T03:15:04Z")

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Wild thought: Could those symbols have been Interlac?

> **[Interlac](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlac)**
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> Interlac is a fictional language used by characters of the United Planets in stories set in the 30th century of the DC Comics universe, especially stories about the Legion of Super-Heroes. Although the characters are said to be conversing in this language, dialog is presented to the reader in English (or whatever local language the comic has been translated to). Interlac text is sometimes depicted visually using the Interlac alphabet as a simple one-to-one substitution cipher for the 26 letters o...

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/157 "2018-01-24T03:29:54Z")

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It hit me tonight that the actor playing the prison warden was Jubal Early in _Firefly_.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/158 "2018-01-24T03:41:40Z")

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> [@Tangent](#):
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> It hit me tonight that the actor playing the prison warden was Jubal Early in _Firefly_.

I recognized him as Paul Robinette from Law and Order…

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/159 "2018-01-24T08:12:51Z")

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The Pranksters are true monsters, destroying the image of our Lord and Savior Beebo. And Killer Frost destroyed three!

A fun episode, showcasing more of Ralph’s character growth. Also, he gets a new and improved costume. Now if Cisco can make a costume that shrinks down to a pill case, surely he can make a Flash costume fit into a ring?

With Barry in prison, we’ve gotten most of the things that Barry saw the first time he ran through the speedforce. Can the Flash Museum be next?

The woman at CC Jitters who paid for the coffee is definitely the same woman who talked to Barry at the wedding. Who she is is still up in the air, but odds are she’s Barry and Iris’s future daughter.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/160 "2018-01-24T10:33:09Z")

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I liked Barry vibrating his hand through the glass barrier so that he and Iris could clap hands. And Ralph finally gets a superhero name, although he doesn’t seem to like it any better than Plastic Man or Stretchy Guy.

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