# The Flash Season 4 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475 "2017-10-10T12:11:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/161 "2018-01-24T16:50:58Z")
Enjoyed the episode and liked Elongated Man’s growth (heh) but couldn’t help but think the episode title could have been “We Really Wanted Mark Hamill But Can’t Afford Him Any More”. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/162 "2018-01-24T17:39:44Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Enjoyed the episode and liked Elongated Man’s growth (heh) but couldn’t help but think the episode title could have been “We Really Wanted Mark Hamill But Can’t Afford Him Any More”. Maybe he just didn’t have time to appear this year. I think Big Sir (Dave) may turn out to be the key to defeating the Thinker. It’s just the sort of thing that even a megagenius might overlook. Pride is likely to be his downfall. Interesting that nobody commented on the prison riot. I’m wondering if that was covered up. If Barry hadn’t been there, someone could’ve died. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/163 "2018-01-24T19:16:09Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > I liked Barry vibrating his hand through the glass barrier so that he and Iris could clap hands. And Ralph finally gets a superhero name, although he doesn’t seem to like it any better than Plastic Man or Stretchy Guy. Of course, I meant “clasp hands.” Damn phone autocorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/164 "2018-01-24T22:11:35Z")
Yeah, I’m thinking that girl is definitely Dawn or Jenni. If she’d been talking to Cisco and Ralph any longer, she’d probably have started babbling in actual super speed. Commenting a bit on last week’s (which I only caught the other day due to a DVR cockup, thanks to CTV changing the schedule, apparently) as well as this one… I am thinking Barry might not have thought the ‘not revealing his identity’ thing through. With Flash disappearing at the same time as Barry Allen’s very public incarceration…it’s not going to take a Thinker-level intellect to figure out that they’re one and the same. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/165 "2018-01-25T00:19:59Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > With Flash disappearing at the same time as Barry Allen’s very public incarceration…it’s not going to take a Thinker-level intellect to figure out that they’re one and the same. When the Flash stopped Fallout, he was seen to have serious burns. The police chief awarding the medal mentioned them. People may assume he’s recovering, or even dead. (I wouldn’t be surprised if bookies were taking bets on that.) ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/166 "2018-01-25T00:30:26Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > When the Flash stopped Fallout, he was seen to have serious burns. The police chief awarding the medal mentioned them. People may assume he’s recovering, or even dead. (I wouldn’t be surprised if bookies were taking bets on that.) Also the Flash disappeared for several months in the summer (Speed-Force, you know) - hmm, that was just about the time that Barry took a lengthy sabbatical from work and was “overseas” (or perhaps in Canada, with his Canadian non-super-powered existence). ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/167 "2018-01-25T21:12:51Z")
This talk reminds me of the Lois lane scene at Niagara Falls in Superman II when she finally figures it all out. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/168 "2018-01-25T21:19:40Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > This talk reminds me of the Lois lane scene at Niagara Falls in Superman II when she finally figures it all out. I can see possibly-future-girl asking the people of Flash’s city the question raised by Tempus in this clip [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTgskfvw2I](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTgskfvw2I) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/169 "2018-01-25T22:22:23Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Barry-in-Prison is turning out to be more fun than expected. I liked this one. People who watch Legends of Tomorrow will note the reappearance of Beebo (the toy). Is the woman who bought Dibny and Cisco the coffee the usher at Barry’s wedding, who is possibly Barry’s descendant from the future? Since she’s writing in the language of the time of the Legion, I’d guess Barry’s granddaughter (Impulse’s cousin) XS. She’s already more interesting than the version of the Legion being used on Stupidgirl… ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/170 "2018-01-25T22:26:21Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Since she’s writing in the language of the time of the Legion While what she’s writing may be this universe’s version of Interlac, it is not yet identified as such, nor does it actually resemble the comics version. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/171 "2018-01-26T03:39:30Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Since she’s writing in the language of the time of the Legion, I’d guess Barry’s granddaughter (Impulse’s cousin) XS. She’s already more interesting than the version of the Legion being used on Stupidgirl… Multiple Legions? It’s been done. [Final Crisis: Legion of 3 Worlds - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Crisis:_Legion_of_3_Worlds) ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/172 "2018-01-26T06:44:05Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > This talk reminds me of the Lois lane scene at Niagara Falls in Superman II when she finally figures it all out. Which version? The Lester version, or the Donner version? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/173 "2018-01-26T09:05:35Z")
> [@Kamino\_Neko](#): > > While what she’s writing may be this universe’s version of Interlac, it is not yet identified as such, nor does it actually resemble the comics version. Actual comic-book Interlac has already made an appearance as[graffiti at the aliens bar in Supergirl](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwYoHItVEAEjx0y.jpg). It says “Krypton Sucks” ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/174 "2018-01-26T09:11:51Z")
ETA - technically, “krypton sucks”, the capitals are missing the upright bar. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/175 "2018-01-26T14:59:50Z")
I wonder if XS has been sent back to gather information about Earth culture lost in the “event” that Mon El refers to in Supergirl? Yes, it’s a different universe, but it’s possible whatever that event was happened in more than one universe. I also wonder if she’s supposed to be in contact (even briefly) with Team Flash? If she’s from the future, she should know not to do that. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/176 "2018-01-26T15:10:00Z")
Sometimes time travelers can’t help themselves. Even Ben Sisko had to get Capt. Kirk’s autograph. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/177 "2018-01-31T02:31:22Z")
A fun episode with lots of call-backs to other episodes - for example, the new Kord building has a high-tech security system with laser beams that don’t freeze. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/178 "2018-01-31T06:11:48Z")
I was thinking Wolfe was awful…un-assholish - especially considering the current comics are in the midst of playing up his assholishness (CCPD just put an officer in there specifically to watch him)…then…whoops, there it is. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/179 "2018-01-31T07:59:11Z")
I am a prosecutor in a large city with a lot of crime. My step son is in jail for a crime he didn’t commit and we know the person who framed him has a secret plan that we can’t quite figure out. I have unexpectedly developed the ability to read minds (and done so in a way that the framer was highly unlikely to have foreseen and planned against). And so, I’m not going to use my new ability to free him or to do a better job putting criminals in jail or keeping the innocent out; I will use it to find out whether my husband thinks I look fat during my pregnancy. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475/180 "2018-01-31T08:06:25Z")
In the opening scene, the meta of the week shrunk a building. In the just-released [trailer for _Antman and the Wasp_](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_rTIAOohas), they did exactly the same thing. Coincidence? There are no coincidences when it comes to Devoe. I was unfamiliar with Sylbert Rundine aka Dwarfstar so I did a little wikia digging. Turns out the comic version has a belt that allows him to shrink. He’s more of an Atom villain, hence this episode’s name-drop of Ray Palmer. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-4/798475.md?page=10)