# The Flash Season 7

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [August 25, 2020, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964 "2020-08-25T07:42:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/61 "2021-05-19T09:05:47Z")

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Just a short while ago, the various Forces didn’t know that the others existed, and now they’re calling each other “sis” and “bro”. I’m surprised that they didn’t start calling Iris and Barry “mom” and “dad”. Not that they should. As Nora/XS will attest, Iris and Barry aren’t really the greatest of parents.

Cisco was supposed to make a life-altering decision, but I don’t think he made any kind of decision this episode. Joe on the other hand quit the force! Now who’s going the keep Lt. Asshole in check?

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/62 "2021-05-20T12:33:19Z")

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At first, I thought it was just Nora with the whole “sis” and “bro” thing, but then Fear-dude started up with it too (and he did call Flash “dad” at one point, I think).

The important thing this episode taught us is that angry poor people need to realize that rich folks really do care about them.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/63 "2021-05-20T12:36:04Z")

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P.S. Cisco’s nightmare is that in 20 years he’ll still be doing fascinating work at one of the top facilities in the world. Yikes!

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/64 "2021-05-20T12:59:31Z")

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Well, to be fair, STAR Labs is literally only a shell. It’s a “top facility” only in that Team Flash uses it as their HQ. If everyone else has moved on, Cisco wouldn’t be doing fascinating work at a top facility, he’d be an isolated hermit. It’s not even clear what he (or Caitlin or Chester, for that matter) even does for a living. I guess freelance consultant for CCPD pays fairly well? Now that Joe’s off the force, he probably won’t even have that.

I _think_ his nightmare is that he doesn’t have a life outside Team Flash, and when Team Flash inevitably disperses, he won’t have anything. He sees himself just puttering around a decaying ruin, reliving past glories, with no friends or family, and not doing anything useful.

Maybe.

I’d agree it really wasn’t clear just what he was afraid of.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/65 "2021-05-20T13:05:24Z")

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STAR Labs does seem to have equipment that is as least as advanced as any other place in the world, but I take your point. People on TV seem to have a very narrow range of friends (Barry doesn’t have friends at the police station other than Joe, Caitie doesn’t seem to have any doctor friends, etc.), and Cisco’s concern reflects the idea that the only friends he has are the ones he works with. Of course, given his superhero lifestyle, the odds are that he won’t live to be a lonely old hermit (or a lonely old anything).

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/66 "2021-05-25T09:27:25Z")

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## S07E11 Family Matters, Part 2

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fjTLvI0jYMI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 7x11 Promo "Family Matters, Part 2" (HD) Season 7 Episode 11 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjTLvI0jYMI)

**TEAMWORK** - _Barry and Iris come together to try and stop a dangerous force from destroying Central City._

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**Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/67 "2021-05-26T01:57:41Z")

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And the answer is Frost gets parole for good behavior.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/68 "2021-05-26T06:11:32Z")

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Just when you thought the writing couldn’t get any worse:

- Cecille mentions the baby finally going to sleep, just before she gets hit by lightning or whatever. Then we never hear about the baby again until Cecille wakes up.
- Team Citizen are going to organize the evacuation of the city, like the three ladies who run a local blog could do anything about moving hundreds of thousands of people. Also, Iris and Allegra were right there in S.T.A.R. Labs, not doing anything about evacuation.
- The Four Forces resolve their differences by the Power of Love.
- Barry defeats the lightning tornado whatsit threatening the city, but not by the Power of Love.
- Frost becoming a hero and saving the city if not the world several times counts for nothing. Go to jail! Just kidding. She gets out because she brought back some escaped metas.
- Frost and Chilblain is just 🤢

ETA: Michelle Harrison at least sold the Speed Force’s sorrow and despair at being all alone.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/69 "2021-06-08T06:28:47Z")

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## S07E12 Good-Bye Vibrations

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ZXOUnSapBmg/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 7x12 Promo "Good-Bye Vibrations" (HD) Season 7 Episode 12 Promo - Cisco's Farewell") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXOUnSapBmg)

**CISCO LEAVES CENTRAL CITY** - _Cisco and Kamila (guest star Victoria Park) tell the team they are leaving Central City. However, Barry, Iris and Caitlin don’t have much time to digest the news because a new version of Rainbow Raider (guest star Jona Xiao) strikes and OG Team Flash must join together one final time to save the city._

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/70 "2021-06-09T14:31:05Z")

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When they announced Carlos Valdes was leaving, I didn’t expect him to leave right in the middle of the season. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since that Tom Cavanagh would be leaving until after he had actually left. Who’s next, Jesse L. Martin?

The new Rainbow Raider, who makes people happy, is a lot more fun than OG Rainbow Raider, who made people angry. Her apprehension once again demonstrates the Flash overcoming his antagonists by the Power of Love. Makes me long for the days of Cicada.

The Hindenburg crash must never have happened on Earth Prime as the airship used hydrogen rather than helium.

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**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/71 "2021-06-15T16:34:40Z")

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## S07E13 Masquerade

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/OqKP4kHw0MM/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 7x13 Promo "Masquerade" (HD) Season 7 Episode 13 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqKP4kHw0MM)

**CECILE IS TRAPPED** - _Cecile is forced to confront her past in order to break free from a psychic prison. Meanwhile, Chester takes over for Cisco but makes a mistake that puts Barry in serious danger. Joe investigates Kristen Kramer’s old military ties and discovers an unsettling truth._

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/72 "2021-06-16T06:32:03Z")

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I don’t think we necessarily needed a Cecile-centric episode but we got one nonetheless. Still one of the better episodes lately despite it being a giant pep-talk for Cecile with one for Chester thrown in for good measure.

Also, we got Sue Dearbon back! Can we also get Ralph back, too? Pretty please?

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**Post date:** [June 16, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/73 "2021-06-16T19:39:43Z")

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Miss Ralph, for sure. I know the actor was/is a major jackhole but he was a good character.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/74 "2021-06-19T20:31:36Z")

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Cisco is going to be so annoyed that he missed Chester’s awesome attack on Psycho-Pirate.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/75 "2021-06-22T18:45:31Z")

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## S07E14 Rayo de Luz

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/uykBYQeWSzU/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 7x14 Promo "Rayo de Luz" (HD) Season 7 Episode 14 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uykBYQeWSzU)

**DANIELLE PANABAKER DIRECTS** - _When Ultraviolet (guest star Alexa Barajas) returns to Central City, Allegra is determined to find her cousin and change her heart, Meanwhile, Joe Martin) finds evidence that Kristen Kramer (guest star Carmen Moore) may not be the good cop she appears to be._

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**Post date:** [June 23, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/76 "2021-06-23T04:33:08Z")

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And so Jitters gets trashed yet again by another super-villain. I’m sure next year they’ll have a drink named “Ultraviolet”.

Notice to Flash writers: We were not asking for a Chester/Allegra pairing. Just as don’t need a Frost/Chilblain pairing, we do not need Chester and Allegra getting together. Also, where’s Ralph?

The best bit of the episode was seeing Sue’s face when she realized that the Flash was off boffing Iris and all she was getting was Chester, Allegra, and Caitlin.

I’m beginning to figure out Danielle Panabaker’s style as a director. She likes to move the camera back. Where most directors would go for a medium shot, she uses a long shot – or at least wider than usual – showing the actors with much of the surrounding environment being shown. In conjunction with this, she also uses focus pull a lot for dialog; rather than cutting between characters talking, she’ll have both in frame and pulls focus between background and foreground.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/77 "2021-06-24T01:32:33Z")

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Allegra literally defeated Ultraviolet with the Power of Love. Not just that, but a full-on Care Bear Stare.

I thought Sue Dearbon’s fight scenes were a cut above the Arrowverse standard. And I really liked Natalie Dreyfuss’ performance in this episode. And I…I kind of think I want a Sue Dearbon spin-off show, now. Seems like she might be joining Team Flash, at least.

Also, I don’t know what the writers think D&D is. It seems like maybe they’re getting it confused with LARPing? It continues to befuddle me that no geeky show can ever seem to get D&D even remotely right. _Stranger Things_ actually did a decent job in at least getting the general concepts right, and _iZombie_ actually portrayed pretty accurately in one episode, but beyond that…has no one in any of the writers’ rooms for geeky shows like this actually gamed?

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/78 "2021-06-24T02:00:35Z")

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Community didn’t do that bad a job, considering that D&D is not particularly cinematic.

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/79 "2021-06-24T07:05:58Z")

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[quote=“Terminus\_Est, post:72, topic:918964”]  
I don’t think we necessarily needed a Cecile-centric episode but we got one nonetheless. [/quote]  
Just caught up with this. I’ve not got a problem with a Cecile-centric episode, but this is too similar to the Mirror Master. How many members of Team Flash need to get body-swapped with no one realizing it?

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**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-7/918964/80 "2021-06-24T11:59:18Z")

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Agreed.

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