# The Flash Season 8

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [November 16, 2021, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429 "2021-11-16T03:12:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/41 "2022-03-17T13:54:22Z")

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Are the writers trying to make us care about characters and 'ships we didn’t like from last season? Kramer, Chill Blaine, Allegra/Chester – it’s mostly not working. Although I’ll give props to Kramer for figuring out that Barry was the Flash. But the only other person who should be sitting in that captain’s chair, aside from Joe, is Singh.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/42 "2022-03-22T08:33:54Z")

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## S08E08 The Fire Next Time

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/z27j3lS8rPE/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 8x08 Promo "The Fire Next Time" (HD) Season 8 Episode 8 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z27j3lS8rPE)

**AN INVESTIGATION GETS HEATED** - _Barry trusts his instincts during a murder investigation, believing the suspect, despite the overwhelming evidence against him, meanwhile Iris gives Allegra an opportunity to be a mentor._

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/43 "2022-03-22T12:15:21Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> Although I’ll give props to Kramer for figuring out that Barry was the Flash.

It really is the best kept secret in the city. /s

I think I might have liked it more if she revealed she figured it out a while back and was waiting for him to come clean himself. And then when Barry was flabbergasted, tell him it just wasn’t that hard to figure out for anybody with half a brain, much less police detectives.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/44 "2022-03-24T13:45:53Z")

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Hey, Barry, don’t you think that threatening people with incineration, including a police officer, is enough to put someone away, even if he never actually killed anyone? He also escaped police custody. At the very least, the guy needs psychiatric help. Also, it is illegal for the police to listen in on a lawyer consulting with her client. Such shoddy police work; no wonder metas still run rampart in Central City.

As for the Allegra “Mean Girl” storyline, the less said about that the better.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/45 "2022-03-24T13:58:21Z")

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Also, his heroic moment was saving people with his powers from a problem caused by his powers. If his powers can cause mass death unintentionally, he needs some anger management classes at the very least.

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**Author:** ![jadielyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jadielyn/32/8808_2.png) [@jadielyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jadielyn)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/46 "2022-03-24T18:07:02Z")

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> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> Also, his heroic moment was saving people with his powers from a problem caused by his powers.

Agreed. There was much shouting of “That YOU caused!” in our household. Not to mention ought to be liable for the repair of the streets, sewer system, and the car he totaled.

Perhaps he can make up for it by helping create hotspots in remote areas to serve as catalysts for geothermal power plants. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/47 "2022-03-25T22:14:53Z")

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The “Mean Girl” isn’t the sharpest knife in the drawer. Allegra was already feeling a little guilty. If Taylor had congratulated her on her article, asked for more help to be able to find great stories herself, and maybe expressed self-doubt, Allegra would have felt even worse and knocked herself out to help Taylor.

That’s when Taylor could have engaged in some creative backstabbing. But as I said, she’s not a sharp knife.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2022, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/48 "2022-03-29T09:38:35Z")

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## S08E09 Phantoms

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/CpEZWh19TZI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 8x09 Promo "Phantoms" (HD) Season 8 Episode 9 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpEZWh19TZI)

**THE FIRE WITHIN** - _Barry and Team Flash get closer to figuring out the Fire Meta but no closer to finding him meanwhile Iris, needing a distraction, follows a story to Coast City._

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/49 "2022-03-31T23:36:27Z")

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So how did Tinya get to the Twenty-first century? Or is the name just an homage? I mean, she is my girl friend and all.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2022, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/50 "2022-04-01T02:12:21Z")

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I’m glad Iris is getting out and doing reporter-type stuff, and with Sue Dearbon, to boot. (Where’s Ralph?) On the other hand, she did it at the expense of up-and-coming reporter Allegra.

More shoddy police work on the part of Barry. He really only got cracking on the Fire Meta case when one of Team Flash got directly affected. Was it really so hard to link the previous cases on the basis of their grief? Also, not a fan of Cecile narrating everything that’s going on. Such lazy, lazy writing.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/51 "2022-04-06T08:53:57Z")

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## S08E10 Reckless

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/7kJbHSWDZ4k/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 8x10 Promo "Reckless" (HD) Season 8 Episode 10 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kJbHSWDZ4k)

**WITH BATED BREATH** - _Barry’s desire to keep Team Flash safe is tested when Frost recklessly courts danger as she tries to stop the “Black Flame”, meanwhile, Iris, tries to help a teen girl reunite with her mother but unintentionally does more harm than good._

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/52 "2022-04-07T14:01:25Z")

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Did Iris just create a supervillain? Because that’s how you create a supervillain. Tinya’s life may not have been great before, but it’s infinitely worse after Iris stuck her nose in it.

I was wondering whether they’d ever get back to Caitlyn/Frost’s mother having powers. It’s a bit anticlimactic that they just used it as a vehicle for attracting the Black Flame meta. But that’s OK. We’ve got some character development for Frost, but more importantly we’re going to get to see the return of Ronnie Raymond.

If we can’t get Ralph back, how about expanding Sue’s role? Make her recurring rather than an occasional guest shot. She’s far more interesting than both Chester and Allegra combined.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/53 "2022-04-07T16:24:57Z")

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> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> If we can’t get Ralph back, how about expanding Sue’s

I honestly thought you were about to propose giving Ralph’s powers to Sue.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/54 "2022-04-08T02:37:44Z")

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I wasnt all that impressed by Sue using the power of money and connections to violate a rule that is in place for good reasons.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/55 "2022-04-08T03:29:03Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I honestly thought you were about to propose giving Ralph’s powers to Sue.

Sue doesn’t need any powers. She’s already a skilled cat burglar and she’s rich.

> [@Andy\_L](#):
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> I wasnt all that impressed by Sue using the power of money and connections to violate a rule that is in place for good reasons.

If not that way, they’d have asked Chester to go hack into the database. Equally illegal, same results.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/56 "2022-04-08T12:48:39Z")

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I am happy to see Team Flash not do the “don’t tell teammates important information” and “go off alone to do secret risky plan” thing this week. Baby steps

> [@Terminus\_Est](#):
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> If not that way, they’d have asked Chester to go hack into the database. Equally illegal, same results.

Was there a reason that they needed to rush. There are probably ways to notify a birth parent anonymously that the child would like to see them which allow the birth parent some chance to prepare and consensually decide to met.

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**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/57 "2022-04-08T14:58:26Z")

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In the comics, Tinya Wazzo is Phantom Girl, and a member of the Legion of Super Heroes, set in the future, which already exists in this continuity. Since Iris has some kind of “time sickness”, I think she sent Tinya’s mother to the future, where Tinya will eventually join her.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/58 "2022-04-13T11:45:52Z")

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## S08E11 Resurrection

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/MOBkQlV4F3c/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 8x11 Promo "Resurrection" (HD) Season 8 Episode 11 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOBkQlV4F3c)

**WHISPERS AND SCREAMS** - _Barry and Chester may have found a way to stop the “Black Flame” from hurting anyone else meanwhile Caitlin decides to handle a situation on her own, possibly putting more innocent lives in danger._

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2022, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/59 "2022-04-14T14:04:00Z")

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What did I say about Tinya becoming a super-villain? I think she just sent Iris into the future, a bit like her comic book storyline.

Until the very last scene, I was thinking that the subplot with the rest of Team Flash opposing Caitlin was superfluous. Did we really need another scene of Barry being wrong again? But it turns out it was Deathstorm all along. What was really superfluous was the Chester/Allegra scene. They could have just substituted another endearing Ronnie/Caitlin flashback.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flash-season-8/954429/60 "2022-04-26T09:13:56Z")

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## S08E12 Death Rises

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dBXcSU35o8M/maxresdefault.jpg "The Flash 8x12 Promo "Death Rises" (HD) Season 8 Episode 12 Promo") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBXcSU35o8M)

**ALL HANDS ON DECK** - _With a new Meta terrorizing the city, Joe lends a hand to the local authorities, meanwhile Barry gets an assist from Cecille who helps to track the mass murderer._

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