# The Florida insiders get face-planted **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 29, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472 "2018-08-29T14:33:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/121 "2018-09-02T22:50:25Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Served his time, right? Paid his debt to society? Hahahaha! > [@](#): > > On March 19, 1997, investigators from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service and the Department of Health and Human Services served search warrants at [Scott’s company] Columbia/HCA facilities in El Paso and on dozens of doctors with suspected ties to the company. > > Eight days after the initial raid, Scott signed his last SEC report as a hospital executive before resigning. He was succeeded by Thomas F. Frist Jr. Four months later the board of directors pressured Scott to resign as Chairman and CEO. Scott was paid $9.88 million in a settlement, and left owning 10 million shares of stock worth over $350 million. [Rick Scott - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Scott) Most of the sources for that wikipedia account are New York Times articles, which I don’t like to link to because of the paywall. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/122 "2018-09-05T13:57:16Z")
[The first head-to-head poll is out](http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-florida-governor-poll-quinnipiac-20180904-story.html), and it’s weird. Yes, Gillum might really be 3 points ahead, but with nearly zero undecided and nearly zero of respondents saying they won’t consider changing their minds? When does that ever happen? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/123 "2018-09-05T19:52:44Z")
Two polls now show Gillum with a 2-3 point lead. Predictit still gives DeSantis a decent edge though, 57% to 46%. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/124 "2018-09-05T20:01:53Z")
I think Gillum is a genuinely super-talented campaigner, based on what I’ve seen. Too early to say if he’s as good as Obama or Bill Clinton, but he’s as good or better than any ~40 year old pol I can recall in the last decade or two. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2018, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/125 "2018-09-06T14:17:47Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Check out this DeSantis [campaign ad video.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YP_zZJFXs) I thought it might be SNL at first, but no, it’s real. Speaking of monkeys, looks like Trump is an organ grinder. The baby looks about as interested on whatever his papa is reading as a bag of concrete on the inner workings of electrical lightbulbs. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2018, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/126 "2018-09-07T12:50:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I think Gillum is a genuinely super-talented campaigner, based on what I’ve seen. Too early to say if he’s as good as Obama or Bill Clinton, but he’s as good or better than any ~40 year old pol I can recall in the last decade or two. Ehhhh, he’s a talent, no question, but he’s not at Obama or Clinton’s level yet. Hard to compare him to anyone else though as we haven’t seen many “pretty charismatic but not legendary charismatic” Presidential candidates. Seems like they’ve all been super charismatic or super zzzzzz the past 50 years. I guess Carter had decent charisma but I don’t want to compare Gilllum to Carter until he’s “earned” that kind of backhanded compliment.😃 Gillum gets bonus points with me for knowing what he’s good at. He’s an executive running for the next best logical executive position and if he succeeds he’ll run for the next logical executive position(the Presidency). Going to the Senate to run for President is for losers who can’t manage anything. Real men prove their chops as governors. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/127 "2018-09-11T12:52:02Z")
DeSantis just can’t keep clear of [his racist base.](https://www.businessinsider.com/rep-ron-desantis-repeatedly-spoke-at-events-organized-by-a-racist-2018-9) > [@](#): > > As a congressman, DeSantis — a House Freedom Caucus member backed by President Donald Trump — spoke at the David Horowitz Freedom Center conferences in 2013, 2015, 2016 and 2017 … > > “David has done such great work and I’ve been an admirer,” DeSantis said in 2015. “I’ve been to these conferences in the past but I’ve been a big admirer of an organization that shoots straight, tells the American people the truth and is standing up for the right thing.” > > Horowitz has for years railed against “the radical left” and its “Islamist allies” and charges that whites are the victims of the “only serious race war” in America and should be credited with freeing enslaved blacks. > > “Black Africans enslaved black Africans. America freed them sacrificing 350k mainly white Union lives,” he tweeted last month. “American blacks are richer, more privileged, freer than blacks anywhere in the world, including all black run countries.” ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/128 "2018-09-19T14:24:29Z")
Trump is mad at Desantis. From a Politico article that I can’t seem to link. “The president has told close associates in recent days that he views DeSantis — who won his Aug. 28 GOP primary thanks to Trump’s strong support — as profoundly disloyal for distancing himself from the president’s assertion that the Hurricane Maria death toll was inflated by Democrats for political purposes.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/129 "2018-09-19T14:25:40Z")
DeSantis’ latest ads do not mention Trump at all, in comparison to his primary ads that were nothing but. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/130 "2018-09-19T15:19:53Z")
Speaking of DeSantis’ new ads, he ends with “From Dunedin to Tallahassee, I’ll work for Florida”. What, you plan to be Governor of just the northwest coastal region? How about “Homestead to Pensacola” instead, Ron? Look at a map. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/131 "2018-09-19T15:22:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > DeSantis’ latest ads do not mention Trump at all, in comparison to his primary ads that were nothing but. The funny thing is that politicians know that local politics sometimes means running away from national politics. But unindicted co-conspirator Donald John Trump, who is as incompetent in politics as everywhere else, will take it as a personal affront. He’s planting the seeds of his own destruction yet again. (It’s unfortunate he’s planting the seeds of our destruction, too.) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/132 "2018-09-19T19:33:18Z")
> [@j666](#): > > I am really surprised that ‘articulate’ now means ‘a credit to his race’. I just can’t keep up. It’s not remotely new. [Here’s an article](https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/weekinreview/04clemetson.html) talking about the term in the 2008 election. And lest you think it’s 10 years old, those in the article indicate it’s been going on for a long time. You just don’t usually call white politicians articulate. It’s kinda a given that anyone who gets on the public stage will be able to articulate their ideas. You might call people inarticulate, but that’s because they violate the norm. And, when he ran a robocall campaign with a parody of AAVE and tons of racist language, do you really think that DeSantis doesn’t mean exactly what “articulate” usually means? The guy is being deliberately racist. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2018, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472/133 "2018-09-19T20:00:45Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Speaking of DeSantis’ new ads, he ends with “From Dunedin to Tallahassee, I’ll work for Florida”. > > What, you plan to be Governor of just the northwest coastal region? How about “Homestead to Pensacola” instead, Ron? Look at a map. It’s been a long time since I lived in Florida, but From Dunedin to Tallahassee reminds me of small towns and speeding tickets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-florida-insiders-get-face-planted/820472.md?page=6)