# The Flying Morons - another plane delayed by a fucking idiot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219 "2016-05-07T20:51:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/201 "2016-05-13T16:00:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> How would she have known _at the time_ that she had made a stupid mistake that would go viral and subject her to world wide derision?

“World wide derision”? HAHAHAHA. You’re a hoot.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/202 "2016-05-13T16:06:31Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Burn her, burn the witch for daring to speak out. :smack:

You can’t even get the analogy right, hacky sack. She’s the idiot that reported somebody for doing math-it was the professor, the rest of the passengers, the crew and the airport that got “burned” for two hours, wasting ghod knows how much money and making people miss connections all over the fucking place.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/203 "2016-05-13T16:08:20Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> “World wide derision”? HAHAHAHA. You’re a hoot.

Aren’t you the idiot that thinks she didn’t give her side of the story to the press because we talked about it here on this little board days later, hacky sack?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/204 "2016-05-13T16:08:48Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> **doorhinge** , how many years did it take you to pass 5th grade?

Why are you so interested in a 9 year old, die perversen?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/205 "2016-05-13T16:12:57Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Aren’t you the idiot that thinks she didn’t give her side of the story to the press because we talked about it here on this little board days later, hacky sack?

No. I’m the person suggesting that there is another side to this story that hasn’t been made public yet. You’re the wanna-be internet bully who condemns a woman for daring to report suspicious activity to the aircrew. How dare she!

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/206 "2016-05-13T16:16:58Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You can’t even get the analogy right, hacky sack. She’s the idiot that reported somebody for doing math-it was the professor, the rest of the passengers, the crew and the airport that got “burned” for two hours, wasting ghod knows how much money and making people miss connections all over the fucking place.

I see you’re still jumping to conclusions based on your misogynistic behavior.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/207 "2016-05-13T16:17:34Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> No. I’m the person suggesting that there is another side to this story that hasn’t been made public yet. You’re the wanna-be internet bully who condemns a woman for daring to report suspicious activity to the aircrew. How dare she!

Soooo, you think it was suspicious, too? Were the numbers too big and scary, or maybe it was fact that he used a sharp pencil instead of a crayon? What was suspicious about a man doing math, hacky sack?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/208 "2016-05-13T16:19:19Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Hahahaha. I think the question should be - Why aren’t internet bullies more effective? People chose to attack a woman because she followed Obama’s DHS guidelines. How dare she. Doesn’t she realize that she’s inconveniencing a man who doodles mathematical equations? :rolleyes:
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> p.s. Better luck next time. Thanks for playing. 😃

You call being hauled into a room and interrogated by federal agents for 2 hours an inconvenience? I’d be wondering if I was going to be taken away somewhere without even a trial.

I’ll bet if it ever happened to you you’d consider it a lot more than an inconvenience.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/209 "2016-05-13T16:20:32Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I see you’re still jumping to conclusions based on your misogynistic behavior.

Still going with that, are you? I don’t care what sex she is, and I’ve already said that I think you’re even dimmer than she is because at least she knew when to stop digging, and I don’t even know what sex you are.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/210 "2016-05-13T16:24:04Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> “World wide derision”? HAHAHAHA. You’re a hoot.

USATODAY  
[Professor suspected of being a terrorist because of a math equation](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/05/07/professors-airplane-math-leads-flight-delay/84084914/)  
U.S.

The Sun  
[Professor questioned by airline staff for doing MATHS on a flight](http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/7134748/Man-says-he-was-questioned-on-a-plane-for-doing-MATHS-on-a-flight.html)  
U.K.

Chinatopix  
[Economics Professor Labeled Terrorist for Writing Math Equations Aboard Airplane](http://www.chinatopix.com/articles/86071/20160507/economics-professor-labeled-terrorist-writing-math-equations-aboard-airplane.htm#ixzz48YNxkJxo)  
China

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/211 "2016-05-13T16:42:18Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> It’s possible he may have had a clock.

And clocks are used in bomb timers, and algebra is use to calculate time, ergo . . . better call in Doorhinge.

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> She saw something

> **[Ten Years of "If You See Something, Say Something"](https://reason.com/2012/03/19/ten-years-of-if-you-see-something-say-so/)**
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> Shortly after September 11, 2001, the advertising firm Korey Kay & Partners pitched the Departments of State, Justice, and the newly created Homeland

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> DHS instructs citizens to report “only suspicious behavior and situations (e.g., an unattended backpack in a public place or someone trying to break into a restricted area) rather than beliefs, thoughts, ideas, expressions, associations, or speech unrelated to terrorism or other criminal activity.”

Since she saw algebra, which is not suspicious, she should not have said anything, just as you should not be reported because you are using a Latin alphabet.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/212 "2016-05-13T16:43:29Z")

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Le Monde  
[Le « terroriste » dans l’avion était un économiste avec une équation différentielle](http://bigbrowser.blog.lemonde.fr/2016/05/08/le-terroriste-dans-lavion-etait-un-economiste-avec-une-equation-differentielle/)  
France

Repubblica.  
[Guido Menzio: “La mia equazione su quell’aereo accusata di Jihad… Una barzelletta”](http://www.repubblica.it/esteri/2016/05/09/news/guido_menzio_e_i_suoi_appunti_sospetti_fatto_scendere_da_aereo_usa-139396179/)  
Italy

The Daily Mail  
[Italian Ivy League economist pulled off flight and interrogated for ‘mysterious’ scribblings flagged up by another passenger… which turned out to be MATH](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3578751/Italian-Ivy-League-economist-pulled-flight-seatmate-suspected-terrorist.html)  
U.K.

RT DEUTSCH  
[Weil er Differentialgleichungen berechnete: Mathematikprofessor löst Terroralarm in den USA aus](https://deutsch.rt.com/nordamerika/38198-weil-er-differenzialgleichungen-berechnete-mathematikprofessor/)  
Germany

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/213 "2016-05-13T17:08:19Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Soooo, you think it was suspicious, too? Were the numbers too big and scary, or maybe it was fact that he used a sharp pencil instead of a crayon? What was suspicious about a man doing math, hacky sack?

A woman saw/heard something that she thought was suspicious. It was her choice, not yours, to say something. You chose to attack a woman for speaking out as Obama’s DHS suggested that she should. “Bad woman, bad, bad woman”, howled the wanna-be internet bullies.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/214 "2016-05-13T17:12:23Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> …Since she saw algebra, which is not suspicious, she should not have said anything, just as you should not be reported because you are using a Latin alphabet.

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Gotcha. 😉 Women should not decide for themselves if they think they’re seeing something suspicious. Life in the meadow must be so peaceful.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/215 "2016-05-13T17:13:38Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Since she saw algebra, which is not suspicious, she should not have said anything, just as you should not be reported because you are using a Latin alphabet.

Trolling, OTOH…

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/216 "2016-05-13T17:15:47Z")

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Jesus.

I invoked Occam’s Razor earlier on, to suggest that the most likely explanation here is that the woman’s report was completely unwarranted.

But i focused on the wrong issue.

What i should have realized was the fact that, in any given discussion, the argument made by **doorhinge** is the one most likely to be completely without reason or logic. I think that’s the safest assumption in just about any thread where the question is more complex than “Vanilla or chocolate”?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/217 "2016-05-13T17:15:54Z")

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Why do you keep stating “Obama’s DHS”? Is that a different DHS than the one I know?

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**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/218 "2016-05-13T17:17:33Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> “Bad woman, bad, bad woman”, howled the wanna-be internet bullies.

It’s more like “Dance, monkeys, dance”, typed the internet troll.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/219 "2016-05-13T17:37:35Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> …What i should have realized was the fact that, in any given discussion, the argument made by **doorhinge** is the one most likely to be completely without reason or logic. I think that’s the safest assumption in just about any thread where the question is more complex than “Vanilla or chocolate”?

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The wanna-be internet bullies have decided that they do not need to hear the woman’s version of this incident before deciding that she’s a moron. Why not wait for the whole story? Apparently there are some who do not want to let facts get it the way of an old fashion tar and feathering?

I prefer to wait to hear the whole story before condemning any of the parties involved in this incident. You may prefer to heat the tar and pluck the chickens before all of the facts are known.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/220 "2016-05-13T17:40:01Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> (post shortened)
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> The wanna-be internet bullies have decided that they do not need to hear the woman’s version of this incident before deciding that she’s a moron. Why not wait for the whole story? Apparently there are some who do not want to let facts get it the way of an old fashion tar and feathering?
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> I prefer to wait to hear the whole story before condemning any of the parties involved in this incident. You may prefer to heat the tar and pluck the chickens before all of the facts are known.

She’s the one who declined to tell her side. And you’re condemning him without the full story.

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