# The Flying Morons - another plane delayed by a fucking idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219 "2016-05-07T20:51:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/281 "2016-05-16T12:31:46Z")
This whole story is just so quintessentially 'Merican redneck, it sounds like something The Onion would make up. I’m waiting for the story where someone says they are concerned that a man sitting next to them might be a terr’ist because they saw him using the metric system. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/282 "2016-05-16T14:14:53Z")
I am bothered by the attitude that you should get all panicky and contact the authorities if you see or hear something you do not understand. In this case, the woman very well could have asked the professor what he was working on rather than assume it was nefarious. It was, after all, an airplane, not a damn elevator, passengers do sometimes talk to the stranger sitting next to them. This culture of fear has kind of subverted the common law idea of innocent until proven guilty. If we think something appears to be suspicious in the vaguest way, we are to assume that it is. Sucks to live in fear all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/283 "2016-05-16T14:18:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > I am bothered by the attitude that you should get all panicky and contact the authorities if you see or hear something you do not understand. Reminds me of a cat we used to have. She was scared of anything she didn’t understand, which was pretty much everything (she was a white cat with a Siamese build and voice, but most definitely _not_ Siamese brains). ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/284 "2016-05-16T18:04:21Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > No-one calling for her side of the story has been doing so on the grounds of “equal time.” My only concern with hearing her own side of the story would be to learn what was in her own mind when she made the decision to report the professor. It just so happens that someone did interview he and here is the video of what was [going on in her head](https://youtu.be/zjedLeVGcfE?t=11s) during the whole incident. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/285 "2016-05-16T19:58:53Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Doorhinge, you are not learning the true story because it never happened. In fact, nothing has ever happened. What you perceive to be the world is just a figment of you imagination. Hahahaha. What a perfect example of a muffinism. You claim that nothing happened. But you still stopped by just to bitch about it. Life goes on. yawn! ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/286 "2016-05-16T20:07:34Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Interesting to see you troll other kinds of threads, not just global warming ones. Do you believe the woman left the plane because of global warming? Did you forgot to add the an interesting part to your post or are you just trolling? Did you know that global warming has been occurring since the last ice age? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/287 "2016-05-16T20:10:07Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Do you believe the woman left the plane because of global warming? Did you forgot to add the an interesting part to your post or are you just trolling? Did you know that global warming has been occurring since the last ice age? Look, everybody! The hacky sack is being “clever”! ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/288 "2016-05-16T20:21:23Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > [Pic of the Italian prof.](http://www.fakt.pl/m/crop/380/217/faktonline/635982968124492584.jpg) > > [Composite of the terrorist leader.](http://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/461A/production/_87264971_jesus_bbc.jpg) > > Leave it to Doorhinge to think there is a similarity between the two. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > [Taliban Manifesto.](https://ptilondonteam.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/imran-khan-ka-paigham-by-imran-durrani.jpg) > > [College Math.](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dkTlMwsUNic/maxresdefault.jpg) > > Leave it to **Doorhinge** to think there is a similarity between the two. Hahahaha. I never said I saw a similarity between your examples. That won’t stop you from incorrectly claiming that I did. SOP apparently. :rolleyes: A woman become concerned, or afraid, of something a fellow passenger did or said. According to Obama’s DHS, it’s suggested that if you see something you should say something. You prefer to advocate for calling the woman a moron or stupid for being afraid and then speaking out. How dare woman speak up when they see something the makes them afraid or concerned? I suggest that wanna-be bullies like youselves make Obama cry. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/289 "2016-05-16T20:24:47Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Look, everybody! The hacky sack is being “clever”! Oh look, another misogynist is trying, and failing, to stifle free speech. :rolleyes: Better luck next time. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/290 "2016-05-16T20:27:49Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Oh look, another misogynist is trying, and failing, to stifle free speech. :rolleyes: > > Better luck next time. I’m sorry-I didn’t know you were female. If so, I would never hold you up as an intellectual example of a typical female, because that would be sexist. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/291 "2016-05-16T21:02:41Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’m sorry-I didn’t know you were female. > If so, I would never hold you up as an intellectual example of a typical female, because that would be sexist. Considering that’s the best it could do after three days… ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/292 "2016-05-16T21:13:40Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Considering that’s the best it could do after three days… Even its trolling is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/293 "2016-05-16T22:19:45Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I’m sorry-I didn’t know you were female. > If so, I would never hold you up as an intellectual example of a typical female, because that would be sexist. There seems to lots of things that you don’t know, or more importantly, don’t care to know. Gets in the way of Groupthink. You chose to attack a woman for speaking up in situations such as this, in spite of it having been recommended by Obama’s DHS. That makes you a misogynist. Sucks to be you. As an misogynist, you attack anyone who suggests that there could be more than one side to this story. Personally, I prefer to hear ALL of the versions and facts, unlike you, BEFORE deciding whether a frightened woman is a moron. Still sucks to be you. Groupthink demands conformity. Groupthink doesn’t tolerate questions. Groupthink condemns free speech. Pressure to conform must be used against persons who dare to ask questions. Questioners must be shouted down. How’s that workin’ out for ya? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/294 "2016-05-16T22:40:26Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > How’s that workin’ out for ya? How’s the trolling working out for you? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/295 "2016-05-17T18:10:03Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > There seems to lots of things that you don’t know, or more importantly, don’t care to know. Gets in the way of Groupthink. You chose to attack a woman for speaking up in situations such as this, in spite of it having been recommended by Obama’s DHS. That makes you a misogynist. Sucks to be you. Are you really this stupid or is this just performance art? We are attacking her for being a freaking moron thinking math was some sort of blueprint for a terrorist plot. And it is not misogyny because if it were a guy that were this much of a dumbass we’d be ridiculing him just as bad. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/296 "2016-05-18T02:54:37Z")
Some morons fly. Some morons don’t fly. Some morons just troll. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/297 "2016-05-18T05:14:40Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Are you really this stupid or is this just performance art? We are attacking her for being a freaking moron thinking math was some sort of blueprint for a terrorist plot. And it is not misogyny because if it were a guy that were this much of a dumbass we’d be ridiculing him just as bad. This idiot troll is just grasping at the final, last straw in the hopes of squeezing some dregs out of this thread. What a sad little muppet. (Oh no! Now I’m being anti-muppet!) ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/298 "2016-05-18T06:26:39Z")
There has to be some penalty for passengers who raise this kind of alarm. I understand the TSA “If you see something say something” viewpoint but this kind of behavior needs some penalty to set an example. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/299 "2016-05-18T06:28:50Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Personally, I prefer to hear ALL of the versions and facts, unlike you, BEFORE deciding whether a frightened woman is a moron. Still sucks to be you. You make it sound like her behavior is more justifiable because of her gender. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2016, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/300 "2016-05-18T06:52:23Z")
Good lord, it’s like arguing with a 14 year old. “Something” doesn’t mean “everything,” okay? That we’re so mathematically illiterate as a culture that a woman didn’t realize it wasn’t something threatening, that is unfortunate, and perhaps our collective fault. That we’re so paranoid that several airline employees took her concerns as valid and delayed to investigate at length, instead of saying, “ma’am, it’s math,” and continuing their flight precheck means that, indeed, it’s taking longer than we thought. The fact that the airlines haven’t come up with a better solution to handle hysterical reports yet is just depressing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219.md?page=16)