# The Flying Morons - another plane delayed by a fucking idiot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 7, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219 "2016-05-07T20:51:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/441 "2016-05-24T23:36:51Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> I flew to Omaha once (from that radical hot-bed of leftist terrorism San Francisco) _wearing :eek: a plaid flannel shirt!_
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> Not a single TSA agent stopped me for enhanced interrogation. Not a single fellow passenger reported me that I know of. (If someone had, I would certainly have known it, right? One doesn’t get interrogated for twelve hours and not be aware of it, right?)
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> Why all the complacency? There were several plaid flannel passengers, IIRC, and _any one of us_ could have been the Plaid Flannel Jihadist of Doom!
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> Where does it say that plaid flannel is not suspicious?

What an attention whore. :eek: Hey! Everybody! I wear plaid flannel shirts. Look for me at an airport near you. :rolleyes:

You’ll have to ask **running coach** if terrorists are allowed to wear plaid flannel shirts. He’s the only one who seems to have the do’s and don’ts handbook of what terrorists can and can not do. He’s made it clear that terrorists aren’t allowed to do mathematics. His claim, not mine.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/442 "2016-05-24T23:38:27Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I would think he votes the straight Lobotomized Opossum ticket.

I didn’t know that Obama was running for office again?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/443 "2016-05-24T23:43:44Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Doorhinge, do you vote, and if so, donkey or elephant?

Only a moron would continually misspell by nom de plume and then expect me to answer. Lying in a meadow all day must be a lot tougher than it looks.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/444 "2016-05-24T23:45:17Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> What an attention whore. :eek: Hey! Everybody! I wear plaid flannel shirts. Look for me at an airport near you. :rolleyes:
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> You’ll have to ask **running coach** if terrorists are allowed to wear plaid flannel shirts. He’s the only one who seems to have the do’s and don’ts handbook of what terrorists can and can not do. **He’s made it clear that terrorists aren’t allowed to do mathematics. His claim, not mine.**

Quote the post where I said that.  
And I never said anything about plaid flannel shirts. When you misrepresent what a poster said, get the poster right.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/445 "2016-05-24T23:45:40Z")

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doorhinge: “people are talking to me! Just like I’m a real grownup!”

fap fap fap fap fap.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/446 "2016-05-24T23:46:58Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> By those stupid fucking associations - anyone that is reading, writing, sleeping, paying attention to the stewardess, etc - CAN ALL BE TERRORISTS.

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If YOU say so. That is what YOU are saying.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/447 "2016-05-24T23:55:14Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> So you admit you consider doing maths to be suspicious?

I never said that. I don’t know what triggered the woman’s suspicion. A woman traveling alone saw/heard something suspicious. She notified the aircrew. Morons on the internet attacked the woman for following the suggestion of Obama’s DHS.

I can only guess that ISIS will want to thank you, personally, for your efforts to undermine the efforts of Obama’s DHS.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/448 "2016-05-24T23:56:55Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Only a moron would continually misspell by nom de plume

Y’all might want to proof read that.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/449 "2016-05-25T00:00:22Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> …No, what happened was that she saw/heard something that _she_ considered suspicious.

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That’s correct, SHE SAW/HEARD something.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/450 "2016-05-25T00:07:03Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Seems like writing a lot of stuff, on paper, is exactly the opposite of how a suicidal terrorist would spend their last hours. And a person who is intent on blowing up this here aeroplane is by definition suicidal. You write stuff on paper in order to convey/preserve information for use at a later time. Their is no post office at thirty thousand feet.

Finally. An expert on what terrorists can and can not do while they are waiting for their bomb to explode.

I didn’t realize that jihadi terrorists were depressed. Are you sure about that? I’ve been led to believe that they looked forward to killing themselves and as many other people as they could.

Does Obama’s DHS, FBI, TSA know of your discovery? You may have saved the entire United States of American. God Bless you, my son. 😃

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/451 "2016-05-25T00:07:44Z")

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[Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/05/07/ivy-league-economist-interrogated-for-doing-math-on-american-airlines-flight/)

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> And then the big reveal: The woman wasn’t really sick at all! Instead this quick-thinking traveler had Seen Something, and so she had Said Something.
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> **That Something she’d seen had been her seatmate’s cryptic notes, scrawled in a script she didn’t recognize.** Maybe it was code, or some foreign lettering, possibly the details of a plot to destroy the dozens of innocent lives aboard American Airlines Flight 3950. She may have felt it her duty to alert the authorities just to be safe. The curly-haired man was, the agent informed him politely, suspected of terrorism.
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> Casey Norton, a spokesman for American Airlines (whose regional partner Air Wisconsin operated the flight), said the woman had indeed initially told the crew she was sick, but when she deplaned she disclosed that the reason she was feeling ill was her concern about the behavior of her seatmate. At that time, she requested to be rebooked on another flight. The crew then called for security personnel, who interviewed Menzio and determined him not to be a “credible threat.” Norton did not know whether the woman was ever notified that Menzio had been cleared. (He said **he was not allowed to give out her name for privacy reasons** , and since Menzio did not know it either, I have not been able to contact the woman for comment.)

That’s her story.  
That’s why no one can contact her.  
The airline and security acted on **the story she told them** and it was found to be a false alarm.

Why do you feel you need to hear her story personally?  
What could she reveal now that she didn’t then?  
If it was actually important, then she’s guilty of aiding a terrorist. (Note: I am NOT saying he’s a terrorist)

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/452 "2016-05-25T00:08:47Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> Y’all might want to proof read that.

Ouch. I hate when that happens. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/453 "2016-05-25T00:09:35Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> If YOU say so. That is what YOU are saying.

No, what he’s saying is that you seem unable to tell the difference between the statements _“terrorists when taking a break from their terroristic activities might work on math equations”_ and _“working on math equations constitutes reasonable grounds for suspecting a person of being a terrorist”_.

And he’s right. Apparently you don’t understand that those two concepts aren’t equivalent.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/454 "2016-05-25T00:10:33Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> So she made a mistake. What did she think he was doing?

You still have to ask her.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/455 "2016-05-25T00:15:25Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> That’s correct, SHE SAW/HEARD something.

And as far as we can tell from all the available evidence, what she saw or heard was something that no reasonable person would have considered sufficient grounds for suspicion of terrorist activity. If she thought it seemed suspicious, she made a stupid mistake.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/456 "2016-05-25T00:43:36Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Why do you feel you need to hear her story personally?

He’s trolling for a date with someone brighter than him.

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/457 "2016-05-25T01:00:17Z")

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Oh for fuck’s sake. I apologize for yelling, but …

WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH **DOORHINGE** AS IF IT WERE AN ACTUAL PERSON?!

IT. IS. A. TROLL!

It will not reconsider its positions, respond to logic, or argue in good faith because THAT’S NOT WHAT TROLLS DO!

Since it first joined this board, it has done nothing but waddle around with its thumb up its ass doing its best impression of World’s Stupidest Human. But no … apparently the “smartest and the hippest” have convinced themselves that “No, no … if only we point out the OBVIOUS GLARING flaws in its argument then surely it will have no choice but to concede!”

JESUS CHRIST YOU PEOPLE!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/458 "2016-05-25T01:08:30Z")

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> [@neofishboy](#):
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> Oh for fuck’s sake. I apologize for yelling, but …
> 
> WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH **DOORHINGE** AS IF IT WERE AN ACTUAL PERSON?!

'Cuz smacking down idiots is fun?

I mean, I get that the sheer waste of energy and thought upsets you, but maybe it’s best if you just don’t look.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/459 "2016-05-25T01:10:00Z")

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> [@neofishboy](#):
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> Oh for fuck’s sake. I apologize for yelling, but …
> 
> WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH **DOORHINGE** AS IF IT WERE AN ACTUAL PERSON?!
> 
> IT. IS. A. TROLL!
> 
> It will not reconsider its positions, respond to logic, or argue in good faith because THAT’S NOT WHAT TROLLS DO!
> 
> Since it first joined this board, it has done nothing but waddle around with its thumb up its ass **doing its best impression of World’s Stupidest Human.** But no … apparently the “smartest and the hippest” have convinced themselves that “No, no … if only we point out the OBVIOUS GLARING flaws in its argument then surely it will have no choice but to concede!”
> 
> JESUS CHRIST YOU PEOPLE!

I don’t think it’s doing an impression.

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**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/460 "2016-05-25T01:21:56Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> 'Cuz smacking down idiots is fun?
> 
> I mean, I get that the sheer waste of energy and thought upsets you, but maybe it’s best if you just don’t look.

But, you see … it’s not a real idiot. Someone as stupid as **doorhinge** appears to be would have literally drowned in a sink or small puddle before the age of five. It certainly wouldn’t be able to turn on a device that could access the internet.

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