# The Flying Morons - another plane delayed by a fucking idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219 "2016-05-07T20:51:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/461 "2016-05-25T01:57:57Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > No, what he’s saying is that you seem unable to tell the difference between the statements _“terrorists when taking a break from their terroristic activities might work on math equations”_ and _“working on math equations constitutes reasonable grounds for suspecting a person of being a terrorist”_. > > And he’s right. Apparently you don’t understand that those two concepts aren’t equivalent. nailed it in 1. He wasn’t doing anything ‘suspicious’ - writing is a perfectly normal everyday thing for anyone but doorhinge. Now - if he wrote the word ‘BOMB’ in big bold letters with lots of !!! maybe that would be worth noting, since even the mere mention of a bomb related to an airplane (like that) will get you hau ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/462 "2016-05-25T02:06:19Z")
> [@neofishboy](#): > > But, you see … it’s not a real idiot. Someone as stupid as **doorhinge** appears to be would have literally drowned in a sink or small puddle before the age of five. It certainly wouldn’t be able to turn on a device that could access the internet. It is dysfunctionally intelligent. And a real fucking asshole that I would for sure not want to be on the same plane with. Hell, not even the same airport. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/463 "2016-05-25T02:08:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It is dysfunctionally intelligent. And a real fucking asshole that I would for sure not want to be on the same plane with. Hell, not even the same airport. That’s rather suspicious that you’re avoiding the airport. Are you up to something? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/464 "2016-05-25T02:10:50Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > That’s rather suspicious that you’re avoiding the airport. Are you up to something? More suspicous that they wont go to the same airport or plane as doorhinge - perhaps they know something that doorhinge is up to and should report it. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/465 "2016-05-25T02:20:07Z")
**simster**! They let you go, huh? 🙂 I was starting to worry about you. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/466 "2016-05-25T03:13:24Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > **simster**! They let you go, huh? 🙂 I was starting to worry about you. I turned in doorhinge - they figured it was a win and let me go with a warning. I asked for it in writing - and they hauled off the guy writing it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/467 "2016-05-25T11:42:29Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > You still have to ask her. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > Ask who? > [@doorhinge](#): > > The LSM. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > That’s a “her”? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/468 "2016-05-25T16:20:06Z")
Of course. We get all our news from Thea Medea. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/469 "2016-05-25T19:39:09Z")
My position hasn’t changed. There is no reason to call this woman a moron without hearing her side of the story. Others don’t seem to need to hear the whole story when they see a chance of attacking someone via the safety of the internet. Some people get down right nasty when Groupthink isn’t adhered to. Sucks to be them. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/470 "2016-05-25T19:44:22Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > 😃 You can ask the concerned/frightened passenger what her thoughts were at the point in time where she decided to notify the aircrew of her suspicion(s). Or you can ask the LSM to ask the concerned/frightened passenger what her thoughts were at the point in time where she decided to notify the aircrew of her suspicion(s). ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/471 "2016-05-25T19:52:51Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > My position hasn’t changed. There is no reason to call this woman a moron without hearing her side of the story. > > Others don’t seem to need to hear the whole story when they see a chance of attacking someone via the safety of the internet. Some people get down right nasty when Groupthink isn’t adhered to. Sucks to be them. Given what you do know - would you have alerted the authorities on the person in question? Why or why not? What suspicious activity was the person engaged in? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/472 "2016-05-25T20:00:42Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > And as far as we can tell from all the available evidence, what she saw or heard was something that no reasonable person would have considered sufficient grounds for suspicion of terrorist activity. If she thought it seemed suspicious, she made a stupid mistake. (Underline added) Hahahaha. Who’s this “we” you’re referring to? The wanna-be internet bullies? Groupthink Inc.? No True Scotsmen United? She probably made a mistake. That doesn’t make her a moron. Responsible U.S. government agencies have asked the public to help in the fight against terrorists. _If you see something, say something_. They must have known that there would be errors, mistakes, and confusion. That’s an acceptable risk for the public’s safety. Some people have chosen to undermine the government’s efforts to involve the public. Maybe a new saying is called for? _If you see something, you better make damn sure that you’re right, or morons on the internet will attack._ ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/473 "2016-05-25T20:06:10Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Given what you do know - > > would you have alerted the authorities on the person in question? > > Why or why not? > > What suspicious activity was the person engaged in? I don’t know what the concerned woman passenger actually saw or heard. Neither do you. I may have chosen to alert the flight crew, if I saw or heard, what the lone woman traveler had seen or heard. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/474 "2016-05-25T20:16:27Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I don’t know what the concerned woman passenger actually saw or heard. Neither do you. > > I may have chosen to alert the flight crew, if I saw or heard, what the lone woman traveler had seen or heard. Actually we do know. She was concerned about the funny writing. Since the Italian economist was cleared to fly, she was wrong and damned stupid to be concerned about pen/pencil marks on paper. If she had other concerns not mentioned, they were equally groundless. We know she was a moron since if the DHS actually wanted something on this level reported, every fucking airplane in the country would go through this for every attempted flight. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/475 "2016-05-25T20:21:32Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I don’t know what the concerned woman passenger actually saw or heard. Neither do you. > > I may have chosen to alert the flight crew, if I saw or heard, what the lone woman traveler had seen or heard. Well, the two of you do have a lot in common. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/476 "2016-05-25T20:25:49Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > … > Responsible U.S. government agencies have asked the public to help in the fight against terrorists. _If you see something, say something_. …_._ That was Obama, right? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/477 "2016-05-25T20:47:00Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Actually we do know. She was concerned about the funny writing. Since the Italian economist was cleared to fly, she was wrong and damned stupid to be concerned about pen/pencil marks on paper. > > If she had other concerns not mentioned, they were equally groundless. (post shortened) Actually, you don’t know. You haven’t heard her side of the story. You’ve made it clear that you do not need to hear the whole story before getting your daily exercise by jumping to unpleasant conclusions. :rolleyes: Whether you like it or not, there are multiple checks, and check points, for passengers. Why have multiple checks unless there is a possibility that terrorists might slip past a few. The math doodler mentioned that she was concerned about pen/pencil marks on paper. How many other concerns did she have? Annnnnnd you’ll still have to ask her, or ask the LSM to ask for you, if you want to know the whole story. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/478 "2016-05-25T20:48:03Z")
> [@Wolf333](#): > > Well, the two of you do have a lot in common. You seem very common. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/479 "2016-05-25T20:52:29Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > That was Obama, right? Are you too poor to pay attention? Does your nose run and your feet smell? That could be your problem? You were built upside down and can’t afford to have yourself fixed. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/480 "2016-05-25T20:58:34Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I don’t know what the concerned woman passenger actually saw or heard. Neither do you. > > I may have chosen to alert the flight crew, if I saw or heard, what the lone woman traveler had seen or heard. What a pathetic moronic answer. Not surprising. ’ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219.md?page=25)