# The Flying Morons - another plane delayed by a fucking idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219 "2016-05-07T20:51:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/481 "2016-05-25T21:03:41Z")
> [@neofishboy](#): > > Oh for fuck’s sake. I apologize for yelling, but … > > WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH **DOORHINGE** AS IF IT WERE AN ACTUAL PERSON?! > > IT. IS. A. TROLL! > > It will not reconsider its positions, respond to logic, or argue in good faith because THAT’S NOT WHAT TROLLS DO! > > Since it first joined this board, it has done nothing but waddle around with its thumb up its ass doing its best impression of World’s Stupidest Human. But no … apparently the “smartest and the hippest” have convinced themselves that “No, no … if only we point out the OBVIOUS GLARING flaws in its argument then surely it will have no choice but to concede!” STOP THE PRESSES **neofishboy** loudly declares he has nothing to say. HooRay! Let the yawning officially begin. Have long have you considered yourself to be the “smartest and the hippest”? Were you elected, or appointed, or anointed? ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/482 "2016-05-25T21:07:56Z")
Hiya, **doorhinge**! _checks forum rules_ Hey, you know? It would be a real shame if you killed yourself. I certainly wouldn’t want to wish that on anyone. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/483 "2016-05-25T21:13:01Z")
> [@simster](#): > > What a pathetic moronic answer. Not surprising. Hahahaha. You’re a hoot. I guess you didn’t really need my answer. You’ve probably jumped to your own conclusion. Again. You must be exhausted. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/484 "2016-05-25T21:21:23Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. You’re a hoot. I guess you didn’t really need my answer. You’ve probably jumped to your own conclusion. Again. You must be exhausted. :rolleyes: I asked you a straight question - _ **knowing what YOU know now** _ - you don’t, as usual, want to answer a straight question. Given what I DO know - I think the passenger over-reacted and made a bad decision - one that we should use to educate others to not be so paranoid. That’s not jumping to any conclusions, thats a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence available to us. You, however, are too stupid to realize it. There is simply no excuse she can (or apparently will) give for her actions that are reasonable. If she ever does, I’ll be happy to change my response. so - either answer the fucking questions or admit you’re just here to stir shit. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/485 "2016-05-25T21:28:53Z")
doorhinge: “People are still talking about me like I really matter or something!” fap fap fap fap fap fap. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/486 "2016-05-25T21:38:38Z")
> [@simster](#): > > …Given what I DO know - I think the passenger over-reacted and made a bad decision - one that we should use to educate others to not be so paranoid. That’s not jumping to any conclusions, thats a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence available to us. > > …so - either answer the fucking questions or admit you’re just here to stir shit. (post shortened) “We should use to educate others”…??? Don’t you mean this is your opportunity to harass a woman for traveling alone and who chose to make her own decision regarding her safety, even if it could be a mistake? You know who else doesn’t approve of woman travelling alone and making decisions? Or what? Personally, I’d like a third choice. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/487 "2016-05-25T21:49:44Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > “We should use to educate others”…??? Don’t you mean this is your opportunity to harass a woman for traveling alone and who chose to make her own decision regarding her safety, even if it could be a mistake? You know who else doesn’t approve of woman travelling alone and making decisions? > > Or what? Personally, I’d like a third choice. I’m harrassing no one. in the end - again - you can’t bring yourself to answer the fucking questions. I have no problem with women, men, muslims, christians, athiests or anyone else ‘traveling alone’ - I do it all the fucking time - but you know what - she wasn’t alone - she may have been by herself on the flight (no direct traveling companions) but she was not ‘alone’. you make it sound like she was in a dark alley somewhere - alone, afraid. You;'re the one thats making her out to be someone that shouldn’t be traveling. but, you know what - I’m definitely tired of trying to reason with you - either answer my questions or fuck off - its really that simple. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/488 "2016-05-25T21:53:59Z")
Got the hots for her, don’t 'cha, Doorhinge. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/489 "2016-05-25T22:20:19Z")
Normally, when i start a thread, i take a certain satisfaction in seeing it extended into a lengthy conversation. But for the love of all that is good and right, stop feeding this troll and let the thread die already! ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/490 "2016-05-25T23:22:45Z")
…Hence the phrase “Dumb as a **doorhinge**.” Wait. You mean there’s no such phrase? Well, now there is. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/491 "2016-05-26T01:30:27Z")
\*\*doorhinge \*\*seems to think that women are beyond cricitcism. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/492 "2016-05-26T01:51:14Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > She probably made a mistake. That doesn’t make her a moron. I’ve never called her a moron. But all the available evidence indicates that the mistake she probably made was probably a stupid mistake. [QUOTE=doorhinge] Maybe a new saying is called for? _If you see something, you better make damn sure that you’re right, or morons on the internet will attack._ [/QUOTE] It’s more like _If you see something, it’s worth taking a moment to consider whether what you see constitutes **rational** grounds for suspicion, so you don’t uselessly waste resources that could be better devoted to genuine threats._ But you see, **doorhinge** , most members of the public are smart enough to understand that already. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/493 "2016-05-26T02:33:22Z")
As I understand it the **doorhinge** theory (insofar as there is a coherent \*\*doorhinge \*\*theory) is that there was or may have been some non-moronic reason the person felt she should say something. Which reason has not been forthcoming. What we do know is that: 1/ the authorities very quickly reached a decision that there was no credible threat and allowed the “accused” to fly. Given the previous instances where the authorities have taken an uber-cautious attitude about such things, it’s a reasonable inference they thought the woman’s reasons for suspicion were obviously baseless: 2/ the “accused” said the woman was concerned because he was writing math. In the absence of any other information, that’s what we have to go on; 3/ neither the authorities nor the woman have come out and provided any more reasonable explanation. One would think the woman would do so if she could. The obvious inference is that she has no better explanation. \*\*Doorhinge \*\*you are of course going to stick to your “we haven’t heard her side of the story” line and assume she had a reason that wasn’t stupid. You are free to exercise poor judgment. That is your right. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/494 "2016-05-26T02:48:27Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > 3/ neither the authorities nor the woman have come out and provided any more reasonable explanation. One would think the woman would do so if she could. The obvious inference is that she has no better explanation. The obvious inference is that she can’t because she is being held by the authorities who are in bed with the algebraic terrorist. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/495 "2016-05-26T02:53:16Z")
I would think the only obvious thing is that in some way the situation is Obama’s fault. Your kinky fantasies notwithstanding. Not that I’m saying there’s anything wrong with kinky fantasies, you understand. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/496 "2016-05-26T03:04:17Z")
The infiltration of terrorists in our midst is surely frightening. The two examples in the OP are merely the tip of the iceberg. Consider the facts: The flight number itself is in Arabic numerals. The flight crew, the very ones flying the plane, probably computed the fuel requirements using the methods of the swarthy 9th century Arab and probable terrorist Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi, which have come to be known as _al-jabr_ or more commonly “algebra”, which is also useful in nefarious engineering projects like building bombs. The sheer terror of it all is self-evident. Also – and sadly I am not making this up – the _Daily Show_ recently showed excerpts from Fox News explaining that the Canadian government’s admittance of Syrian refugees is going to create a tsunami of terrorists surging in to the US. Many of them are educated and presumably if safeguards are not enacted immediately, they’ll end up doing advanced math on airplanes and scaring the hell out of decent God-fearing American travelers. The _Daily Show_ interviewer, who freely admits that his name is Hasan Minhaj and is therefore himself a probable terrorist, tried to ask some of these Syrian families about their terrorist plans. It’s not clear if they were playing along with the joke or just thought he was an idiot, but it clearly shows how well they have been trained to conceal their true motives. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/497 "2016-05-26T03:08:48Z")
IIRC, the alleged terrorist was on a flight to Canada. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/498 "2016-05-26T03:38:15Z")
Close. It was Rochester. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/499 "2016-05-26T03:52:07Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > IIRC, the alleged terrorist was on a flight to Canada. See…Lumberjacks!!! :eek::eek: ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219/500 "2016-05-26T06:02:56Z")
Lumberjacks are ok, but rumor has it most Canadians prefer a good lager. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-flying-morons-another-plane-delayed-by-a-fucking-idiot/754219.md?page=26)