# The Forbidden Weird Wild West Mafia Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 3, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170 "2009-08-03T15:16:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/21 "2009-08-06T17:15:11Z")
Part of **Meeko** ’s problem is that he’s been receiving the wrong reinforcement for his behaviour. In his first two games, his play was also by and large anti-Town, but he ended up being confirmed as Town in both of them, so nobody voted for his anti-Town behaviour. Since nobody swatted his nose with a newspaper, I think he didn’t quite realize that his behaviour was anti-Town. Now, he’s still playing the same old way but without being confirmed, so people are swatting him for it. That said, I don’t think asking for an involuntary substitution is the right way to deal with him. If his play is anti-Town, then vote to lynch him, the same as you would any other anti-Town player. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/22 "2009-08-06T17:20:42Z")
Right, I don’t agree with substitution. If you feel his play is anti-town, then vote to lynch him. If he doesn’t come up with a power role again then he’s a fairly easy target to get rid of. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/23 "2009-08-06T17:44:55Z")
> [@Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/359): > > Because anti-town play isn’t the same as scummy play, I don’t have a real read on him. We could lynch him, but I dislike policy lynches. They don’t yield much information, as they give scum a free bandwagon. Anti-town play may not be scummy play, but allowing it to continue gives the scum an excuse for their own anti-town behavior. The town must force the scum to at least pretend to play pro-Town. Even if you don’t like policy lynches, lynching anti-town play is the one policy that town must enforce if it is to have any hope of winning games. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/24 "2009-08-06T17:45:21Z")
Honestly, I should have backed out as soon as I saw Meeko was in. I really hate (a) trying to play around him (b) picking on him. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/25 "2009-08-06T17:55:29Z")
Sorry to see you pull out, **Tom** , but if it’s not fun for you, then it’s not fun. Better to announce your withdraw than simply disappear like some players have. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/26 "2009-08-06T17:58:42Z")
**Who wants to sub for Tom Scud?** Hey, an imperfect rhyme! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/27 "2009-08-06T18:06:00Z")
**And AlkaSeltzer.** ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/28 "2009-08-06T18:11:30Z")
I’ll sub in when Meeko is out if there are still openings. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/29 "2009-08-06T18:54:30Z")
What is WiFOS and FOS? I actually came here to ask to be spoiled (how does that work, anyway? hidden forum?), but if you get no other volunteers and don’t mind a newbie, I will take one of the spots. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/30 "2009-08-06T18:57:56Z")
WiFOM - “Wine in front of me” from the Princess Bride scene. Ed explained it in-thread somewhere. Basically a situation where you can’t guess if the scum wants you to do something, or wants you to do the opposite of that thing, because obviously you wouldn’t do the thing he clearly wants you to do and he knows it. If you get my drift. FOS - Focus of Suspicion ---
**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/31 "2009-08-06T19:00:41Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > FOS - Focus of Suspicion Finger of Suspicion, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/32 "2009-08-06T19:07:36Z")
**I seriously need a sub. Anyone?** ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/33 "2009-08-06T19:11:36Z")
> [@Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/382): > > **What then, can town do, overnight, off board, to fully utilize the information the lynch brings?** “off board”? Either that’s a scum slip or a Mason slip (since some designers give Masons secret communication). ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/34 "2009-08-06T21:36:51Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > I hope town would not hold it against me, if I can not make up my mind for a Day 1 vote. The Anti-Town! It burns! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2009, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/35 "2009-08-06T22:24:01Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > The Anti-Town! It burns! Honestly, I don’t know what he gets out of this game. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/36 "2009-08-07T00:54:24Z")
Against my better judgement, I’m going to take Alka’s place. Wish me luck and strength! ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/37 "2009-08-07T01:14:31Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > “off board”? Either that’s a scum slip or a Mason slip (since some designers give Masons secret communication). Okay, I know nothing about him, but I don’t think so. I think it was just clumsy wording. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/38 "2009-08-07T10:55:41Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **I seriously need a sub. Anyone?** Since I got blow up in the off-board game, I’m available if you can’t find anyone else. Oops, I see **USCDiver** went into the Weird Wild West, good luck! I’ll sit on the bench then. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/39 "2009-08-07T15:03:41Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > Since I got blow up in the off-board game, I’m available if you can’t find anyone else. > > Oops, I see **USCDiver** went into the Weird Wild West, good luck! I’ll sit on the bench then. I may need another sub quite soon, so I’ll add you to the list of possible subs. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/40 "2009-08-07T15:51:03Z")
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