# The Forbidden Weird Wild West Mafia Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 3, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170 "2009-08-03T15:16:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/61 "2009-08-12T06:40:43Z")
> [@Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/613): > > Earlier you were claiming to be Vanilla Town. Why would be role blocked? This is kinda obvious. Meeko claimed to be vanilla, so he wouldn’t be lying if he says he wasn’t roleblocked. In fact, if he realized that it makes him sound like he has a power role, but he doesn’t, that is really good play. Of course, it would work better if there weren’t three claims already. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/62 "2009-08-12T14:37:52Z")
> [@Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/622): > > I believe that you and your scum mates [and again, I am not ruling out **Special Ed**] were trying to go for an easy bandwagon. Meeko, Special Ed is dead. He has been confirmed post-mortem as Town. From what I know of Mafia, post-death IDs are the one piece of information you can be confident won’t be a lie. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/63 "2009-08-12T14:38:08Z")
Why does Meeko think I still might be Scum? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/64 "2009-08-12T14:40:39Z")
Because you were mean to him. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/65 "2009-08-12T14:42:30Z")
> [@Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/622): > > At worst, you guys saw me as an easy target for day 1. > > At best, you guys recognize me for the player I really am, and know that I am too much of threat for you guys. He’s got that right. I DID recognize him for the player he is, and I knew he was too much of a threat for Town. Only, honestly, I didn’t really think he was Scum anymore than anyone else. If I thought he was Scum, I would have left him alive, because I’m sure he would have slipped sooner or later, and probably taken a teammate or two with him. No, I thought he was probably Town, but still a threat to my team, which..he seemed to have forgotten, was Town. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/66 "2009-08-12T14:43:32Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Because you were mean to him. Yeah, unfortunately, I got the heaviest dose of Meeko in his first game. We were a 2 person masonry. I welcomed death in that game. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/67 "2009-08-12T17:43:34Z")
Why hasn’t anyone in game mentioned that I’m dead and Town, so suspecting me is foolish and screams of self defense and skimming? Meeko has an advantage. He plays so anti-Town when he is Town that you can’t possibly tell if he’s Scum. And people don’t want to vote for him for being anti-Town, so he can skate through the game. The only advantage I would see is that if he’s Scum, he’s sure to mess it up for his scum buddies sooner or later. PLus, they’ll have to be listening to him in the Scum thread :smack: :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/68 "2009-08-12T18:14:25Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > He plays so anti-Town when he is Town that you can’t possibly tell if he’s Scum. This is precisely why anti-Town behavior must be lynched. ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/69 "2009-08-12T18:26:48Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > This is precisely why anti-Town behavior must be lynched. I tried. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/70 "2009-08-12T18:41:30Z")
> [@Pleonast](#): > > This is precisely why anti-Town behavior must be lynched. Yes, I rather thought Meeko would be lynched on Day One this time. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/71 "2009-08-12T21:25:00Z")
Wow, totally dead afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/72 "2009-08-14T15:44:54Z")
> [@Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/680): > > Cucuy’s vote created a tie between Joey and MentalGuy. If necessary, I will switch my vote to Joey to break ties, but not until a bit closer to the deadline. Um, no, it created a tie between oredigger and mentalguy. If MHaye unvotes and switches to Joey, it will create a new tie. Wonder if he’ll figure that out in time. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/73 "2009-08-14T16:10:45Z")
\*\*I need a sub. Anyone want in? Specialed perhaps?\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Polyperchon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/50afbb/32.png) [@Polyperchon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polyperchon)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/74 "2009-08-14T16:22:36Z")
Hm, I’m not a fan of this no info until the next morning situation - it makes the days seem doubly long and the curiosity is bound to kill me! Without delving into spoilers, can anyone tell me what’s up with the delayed info reveal? I think someone ingame speculated about power roles that could use their power after death but I can’t piece together how the delayed info to town ties into that… 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/75 "2009-08-14T16:23:50Z")
I think this is mainly a way to enforce the “no strategy talk at night” rule - you don’t have any new information at sundown anyway, so you might as well wait until Morning’s reveal. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/76 "2009-08-14T17:03:31Z")
It’s actually a rather clever way of encouraging no strategy at Night–it doesn’t force the players to not talk strategy (i.e., no post restriction), but gives them nothing new to go on. Sounds like just the mechanism I like. I’ll definitely consider using it my future games. **Polyperchon** , I’ve used delayed reveals in some of my games. It’s an anti-Town mechanism, but it lets characters be “resurrected” without confirming them. This is useful a recruitment mechanism. It also allows the existence of a pro-Town “Coroner” role, who can get the results early. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/77 "2009-08-14T17:05:46Z")
It DOES limit the amount of information town power roles have to make their night action decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/78 "2009-08-14T17:26:36Z")
I can join if you want, **Mahaloth**. Though I’ve been skimming the last Day so I’ll pass for someone else who wants to play a lot ;). ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/79 "2009-08-14T18:04:45Z")
> [@Polyperchon](#): > > Hm, I’m not a fan of this no info until the next morning situation - it makes the days seem doubly long and the curiosity is bound to kill me! Don’t like it? I rather like it, actually. I think it’s more realistic and it might just have more to do with the game than you realize. > [@Natlaw](#): > > I can join if you want, **Mahaloth**. Though I’ve been skimming the last Day so I’ll pass for someone else who wants to play a lot ;). OK. I’ll PM you your role. PM me back when you get it. You are replace Ro0sh, by the way, who sadly is unable to continue the game. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/80 "2009-08-17T01:35:57Z")
Quoth **[AllWalker](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11452226&postcount=720)**: > [@](#): > > Care to send us a computer analysis of the voting patterns from beyond the bounds of the world? Come on, I’ll pay you $50 of in-game currency. This is a bit beyond what I’m comfortable posting in the main thread, but my vote-analysis program is open source, and anyone’s welcome to adapt it and use it in any game they want. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170.md?page=5)