# The Forbidden Weird Wild West Mafia Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 3, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170 "2009-08-03T15:16:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/101 "2009-08-24T18:21:46Z")
**Oredigger** is really saying all the wrong things in my opinion. His NAF block doesn’t confirm either of them, especially not if he believed (initially) I got bombed meaning he could have blocked scum-killer NAF. > [@](#): > > the fact that we started with a full third of players playing against the town What? 18/3 = 6 and there are only three confirmed + one investigated = four Crimson Thorns. PIS slip? **cucuy** ’s investigation of **USCDiver** is nice and no need to worry yet if he failed or is scum. Although he can claim the former if he’s the latter to avoid a lynch. It probably leads to a boring Day though and another useless vote record (meaning anyone except the claimed roles won’t get much scrutiny). > [@](#): > > I cannot report my private message. Nothing was not reported for my rate of success. But cucuy could for the last two investigations? I guess it’s possible **Mahaloth** changed his mind on posting PMs though. I don’t like **Nanook** ’s after the fact explanation of the side effect, although if it’s because it was a successful protect I can understand not to tell it. But if that is the case, it needs to be send now to confirm/deny the bomb thing. It just might be the interaction between the investigation and the protect (a sort weak paranoid doctor effect revealing the protected (drugged?) target). ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/102 "2009-08-28T00:49:21Z")
Is the game over yet? Did I win? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/103 "2009-08-28T01:05:28Z")
No, ed, but there is a lull because everyone settled on USCDiver rather early. Cucuy claims to have investigated him and that he came back mafia, so the week has been a bit slow. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/104 "2009-08-28T16:25:59Z")
Hello everyone. I’m back. At least I didn’t have to defend myself. What can you say against an investigation result? Can I get spoiled please? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/105 "2009-08-28T16:27:19Z")
See you in the spoiled thread :). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/106 "2009-08-28T18:19:25Z")
For what it’s worth, I think you did well with the hand you were played. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/107 "2009-08-31T18:35:58Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > Hello everyone. I’m back. At least I didn’t have to defend myself. What can you say against an investigation result? In my opinion you could have argued a bit harder (and you really didn’t get told by the mod you were a Miller?!), but that probably wouldn’t have helped much. The reaction to your defense could have helped though. Perhaps this counts as spoiled, but at least one of the claimed vanillas should have commented on your posted PM. Heck, anyone should have considered the possibility more carefully, but even **CatInASuit** s mention of your deciding vote to lynch scum didn’t get any reaction. It reminds me of Not-So-Simpletown were a claimed mason was lynched and no-one cared, but that was because there was no ‘town’ at all there. I find some PM posting allowed and the others not really annoying. Especially **cucuy** telling he couldn’t even tell if/what for answer he got whether he knows he fails and [a while later just telling it anyway](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11493815#post11493815). > [@Weird Wild West Mafia/Werewolf/Psychopath](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/weird-wild-west-mafia-werewolf-psychopath/504801/1103): > > I find myself most swayed right now by the idea that **JoeyP** didn’t indicate that he’d been prostituted. That more or less points to either \*\*Oredigger \*\*lying or **JoeyP**. > > With the reality of \*\*cucuy’s \*\*investigatory results being inconsistent, I don’t know that his testimony is necessarily enough to sway things one way or another. Hello? Mod confirmed Miller? And **JoeyP** did confirm he got a passionate Night and it’s not like he had a chance to claim by **Oredigger** since he claimed in the sixth post after Dawn Day Three (less then two hours after). **NAF** s tracking of JoeyP makes as much sense as blocking him: why would scum pick the most suspicious guy to make a move (unless he has a power himself). All the investigation were better spread out over more people. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/108 "2009-08-31T22:13:45Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > In my opinion you could have argued a bit harder (and you really didn’t get told by the mod you were a Miller?!), but that probably wouldn’t have helped much. The reaction to your defense could have helped though. > Perhaps this counts as spoiled, but at least one of the claimed vanillas should have commented on your posted PM. Heck, anyone should have considered the possibility more carefully, but even **CatInASuit** s mention of your deciding vote to lynch scum didn’t get any reaction. I don’t think it would have mattered much if I had claimed Miller right away. **cucuy** hit Scum the Day before, no one was going to take a chance on me. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/109 "2009-09-01T00:15:40Z")
For the record, Joey is really playing risky with the whole pm thing. He got his PM within minutes of dawn, just like anyone else who was due to get one. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/110 "2009-09-01T00:21:18Z")
**Mahaloth** , you realize that even just confirming that **Joey** _did_ get a PM is a spoiler? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/111 "2009-09-01T01:05:00Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > **Mahaloth** , you realize that even just confirming that **Joey** _did_ get a PM is a spoiler? Yes. I’m not an idiot, Chronos, despite all my repeated indications otherwise. 😉 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/112 "2009-09-01T01:55:33Z")
I would like some spoilage now, please. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/113 "2009-09-01T03:09:12Z")
I have it in my head who i think the scum are, so give me spoilers so I can laugh at how terribly wrong I am. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/114 "2009-09-01T03:19:57Z")
Before you get spoiled, could you say in this thread who you think they are? Saying what your best guess is, without actually having any insider information, isn’t a spoiler. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/115 "2009-09-01T14:35:06Z")
The one I’m more confident of is Zeriel. He’s been flying under the radar, and coming in and tossing suspicion on the claimed power roles when he can. A neat way to set them up for lynching later. The other is Meeko, as I stated multiple times in the game thread itself. I fully expect to be laughably wrong on both of them though. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/116 "2009-09-01T16:51:34Z")
For what it’s worth, this bystander agrees with you on **Meeko**. It’s kind f unfortunate that his established playing style has made him lynch-proof. If it does turn out that he’s scum in this game, however, that may change. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/117 "2009-09-03T13:39:05Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > For what it’s worth, this bystander agrees with you on **Meeko**. It’s kind f unfortunate that his established playing style has made him lynch-proof. If it does turn out that he’s scum in this game, however, that may change. From what I’ve seen of **Meeko** , I’m not sure if he can handle lying very well. He seems to bend over backwards to say things that are technically true. If he’s scum, he’s gotten amazingly better since last time. (Although he’s not doing to badly as town, now that he is taking his time.) Oh, and I think NAF could be a third-party/PFK bomber\* type. He is ridiculously over-powered to be town or scum, and seems too dismissive of the ability for town to lose. \*If I understand the terminology correctly, a bomber is somebody who marks his victims without them knowing, and wins if he can mark everybody. ---
**Author:** ![Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bc8723/32.png) [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nanook_of_the_North_Shore)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/118 "2009-09-04T03:11:14Z")
He’s not as powerful as you seem to think he is. That’s not to say he’s necessarily Town, but I think he’s…not necessarily lying but being less than truthful about his abilities in order to draw scum fire. Hey Mahaloth, I know you’ve been around, you planning on approving my spoiler account? ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/119 "2009-09-04T14:04:06Z")
I think they’re all now ignoring the fact that they have a known Miller in the setup which should indicate a Godfather. Don’t implicitly trust a Town investigation now! ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/120 "2009-09-04T18:06:22Z")
> [@Natlaw](#): > > Hello? Mod confirmed Miller? And **JoeyP** did confirm he got a passionate Night and it’s not like he had a chance to claim by **Oredigger** since he claimed in the sixth post after Dawn Day Three (less then two hours after). Mod confirmed miller or not, \*\*cucuy \*\*was batting 2 for 2 AND claimed himself that his power was inaccurate. =P Can I get spoiled over here? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170.md?page=7)