# The Forbidden Weird Wild West Mafia Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 3, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170 "2009-08-03T15:16:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/121 "2009-09-04T18:08:48Z")
> [@Nanook\_of\_the\_North\_Shore](#): > > The one I’m more confident of is Zeriel. He’s been flying under the radar, and coming in and tossing suspicion on the claimed power roles when he can. A neat way to set them up for lynching later. This strategy…honestly, I just really really dislike the way that a lot of claims end up being taken totally at face value, and especially in closed games I tend to play a very low-key game in which I preferentially try to find scum hiding in the ranks of the claimed. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/122 "2009-09-04T18:23:55Z")
Can I get some spoilers as well, please? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/123 "2009-09-04T19:05:10Z")
My general approach to claims is that, if the claim is of something that can eventually be confirmed, I’ll give the claimant the benefit of the doubt for long enough to confirm it. If it’s something unconfirmable, though, I don’t give it much weight one way or the other. And I still can’t fathom why **Meeko** rolled thousands of dice or whatever it was to kill **Tom Scud**. Random is random; if he were going to choose his target randomly (itself already a bad idea), a single die would have been plenty. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/124 "2009-09-04T19:33:38Z")
My take on it was he rolled dice until they randomly came up the result he wanted. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/125 "2009-09-08T00:38:44Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > My take on it was he rolled dice until they randomly came up the result he wanted. From what I read, he used three different methods, and all three of them got the same result. ---
**Author:** ![AllWalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/db5fbb/32.png) [@AllWalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AllWalker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/126 "2009-09-08T05:19:39Z")
I die. I really am an unnoteworthy player, aren’t I? I rarely seem to do anything interesting. Just searching for my name in this thread brings up my offer to bribe **Chronos** for analysis. And yes, I was joking about that. I can’t spare a single in game dollar. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/127 "2009-09-08T16:21:04Z")
Not at all unnoteworthy. In the three games I’ve seen you in, you’ve used the powers you were dealt quite effectively twice, and even without powers, you’ve done a good job at Scum-hunting and saying sensible things. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/128 "2009-09-12T16:01:51Z")
So, how badly did I do then 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/129 "2009-09-12T16:37:26Z")
Gah! I still can’t believe that they lynched me for _that_! That seriously, wasn’t even like, anything! I miscounted–not in a scummy way, but in a simple :smack: way. And I was acting waaay more scummy at points, things that people might have picked up on. Like how I kept poking Story’s comments about 3rd parties. Now, that was an actual scum tactic. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/130 "2009-09-12T17:01:28Z")
If it’s any consolation pedescribe - you were top of my scum list for that Day. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/131 "2009-09-12T17:41:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Gah! I still can’t believe that they lynched me for that! That seriously, wasn’t even like, anything! Then you should maybe have said something to that effect in the thread? Not that I have much sympathy for you, of course, you evil scum. Of course, it’s possible that there were other subconscious reasons why folks were suspecting you, and that was just what was closest to the surface and easiest to articulate. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/132 "2009-09-13T15:16:33Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Then you should maybe have said something to that effect in the thread? Not that I have much sympathy for you, of course, you evil scum. > > Of course, it’s possible that there were other subconscious reasons why folks were suspecting you, and that was just what was closest to the surface and easiest to articulate. I was actually going to mention that I suspected Pedescribe earlier in this thread, but I couldn’t put my finger on anything scummy he’d done besides what had already been mentioned in-game. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/133 "2009-09-13T19:03:53Z")
I think Meeko’s attitude has a decent chance of hurting town, especially if it’s contagious. Say it with me, guys, “Power Roles don’t win games for town, good detective work does!” ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/134 "2009-09-14T10:34:50Z")
You convinced me, **CatInASuit**. I still think **NAF** will turn up PFK. Which means there is at least another scum out there. Since **cucuy** got no result on his last investigation, I think he didn’t fail **Boozahol** ’s investigation (unless Godfather). **Meeko** and **JoeyP** blocked suggest not scum --if-- **Oredigger** is town. But why doesn’t he have a fail rate? So if NAF flips town, lynch Oredigger. If there is a kill Tonight, lynch Oredigger. Otherwise it is a gamble between scum-Oredigger didn’t kill to imply he blocked Boozahol, or it is actually town-Oredigger who did block scum-godfather/hitman-Boozahol. All assuming one scum left, since otherwise a pfk-NAF is a town loss. I can’t fit in a Godfather JoeyP (due to the Day Two voted as you argued), so that does have me worrying that there Ore+Boozy are town and the block on him failed. ---
**Author:** ![cucuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7feea3/32.png) [@cucuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cucuy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/135 "2009-09-14T16:06:39Z")
Hey, is this heaven? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/136 "2009-09-14T17:29:35Z")
No, it’s Iowa. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/137 "2009-09-14T17:34:45Z")
Heh. Can someone tell me what PFK is? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/138 "2009-09-14T17:41:51Z")
“Plays for Keeps” I think - a third party who wins at the expense of the others, as opposed to a third party who wins along with the other teams. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/139 "2009-09-14T17:45:00Z")
Ah, cool. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Natlaw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a88e57/32.png) [@Natlaw](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natlaw)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2009, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170/140 "2009-09-15T10:19:21Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > I think Meeko’s attitude has a decent chance of hurting town, especially if it’s contagious. Say it with me, guys, “Power Roles don’t win games for town, good detective work does!” Especially this comment from Meeko: > [@](#): > > But, I am vanilla, and well, if I have to die to prove it, so be it. If the game _is_ at lynch or lose now and you’re town, you cannot afford this. I gotta agree with Boozahol’s vote for him, although if he’s (the single remaining) scum it’s also a smart move, since it keeps NAF around for lynching Tomorrow. Although a Town NAF can then stop the lynch to get another Day of discussion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-forbidden-weird-wild-west-mafia-thread/505170.md?page=8)