# The Frozen Binomial game - Please read the rules in the OP

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**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [June 7, 2026, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725 "2026-06-07T12:40:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2026, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/541 "2026-07-02T10:43:03Z")

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> [@vbob](#):
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> > [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> > I have a lot of tasks to complete today, but updating our list is foremost and first:
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> Have you considered reordering your list in betalphaical order?

For a moment, I couldn’t make tails or heads out of your post.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/542 "2026-07-03T21:56:22Z")

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I think @vbob was testing beta a new idea. They should have seen who saluted and run it up the flagpole first.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2026, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/543 "2026-07-03T22:36:53Z")

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I’d better get off the internet, I’ve got some pans and pots to wash.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/544 "2026-07-04T08:46:26Z")

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It’s very important to clean the mash and bangers off the cookware.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/545 "2026-07-04T13:01:54Z")

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Last night I read Ham and Green Eggs to my granddaughter.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/546 "2026-07-04T13:40:43Z")

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This a repeat, in the future please leap before you look.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/547 "2026-07-04T14:22:32Z")

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Oops. Culpa Mea.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/548 "2026-07-04T14:27:44Z")

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Repeats are allowed, it’s the highway or my way.

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/549 "2026-07-04T18:37:05Z")

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Mustard is getting a bit toity-hoity these days.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/550 "2026-07-04T19:07:42Z")

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He who dealt it, smelt it.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/551 "2026-07-04T19:25:53Z")

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One thing I was never clear on is if it we could only use the same parts of speech, or if we can script the flip on any old phrase

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/552 "2026-07-04T19:50:29Z")

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From Wikipedia:

> In [linguistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics "Linguistics") and [stylistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylistics "Stylistics"), an **irreversible binomial** ,[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreversible_binomial#cite_note-modern2-1) **frozen binomial** , **binomial freeze** , **binomial expression** , **binomial pair** , or **nonreversible word pair** [[2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreversible_binomial#cite_note-pairs-2) is a pair of words, used together, in fixed order, as an [idiomatic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiom "Idiom") expression or [collocation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collocation "Collocation"). The words typically have a [semantic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics "Semantics") relationship, usually involving the word _and_ or _or_. They also belong to the same [part of speech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Part_of_speech "Part of speech"): for example: nouns (e.g., _milk and honey_); adjectives (_short and sweet_); or verbs (_do or die_). Usually (as with the preceding examples) the order of such word elements will not be reversed.

Your entry really shouldn’t change the meaning of the phrase; just present it in a non-traditional order.

mmm

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/553 "2026-07-04T21:44:25Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> Your entry really shouldn’t change the meaning of the phrase; just present it in a non-traditional order.

That was sweet and short.

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2026, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/554 "2026-07-04T21:57:39Z")

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A frozen binomial is sorta like a Yogi ism, where everybody knows what you mean even though that wasn’t what you said like say Clyde and Bonnie.

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**Author:** ![vbob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vbob/32/4439_2.png) [@vbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vbob)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/555 "2026-07-05T00:17:15Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> I think @vbob was testing beta a new idea.

For over 50 years, I’ve been known by just my last initial and first name…

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/556 "2026-07-05T04:24:16Z")

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They get along like water and oil.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/557 "2026-07-05T10:47:14Z")

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Pepa-N-Salt push it real good.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/558 "2026-07-05T10:47:29Z")

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It’s just a matter of subtraction and addition.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2026, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/559 "2026-07-05T21:34:48Z")

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I’ll have to check my Loss & Profit ledger

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2026, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-frozen-binomial-game-please-read-the-rules-in-the-op/1030725/560 "2026-07-06T03:00:13Z")

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It’s like my first girlfriend told me, no reward no risk.

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