# ...The fuck, Ecmandu?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182 "2014-07-15T17:15:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/21 "2014-07-15T18:27:22Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Also, the “nice guy code” precludes losers from sexually harassing women, which includes any attempt to sit near them or talk to them. Rather than rewarding the nice guys with sex, they instead have sex with the brutes who harass them because they’re all psychotic.

It’s far more complex and nuanced than that:

[QUOTE=Ecmandu]  
Part of the reason the black suicide rate is lower than the white population is because “game playing” is more prevalant in this culture (perhaps just on european continents), white males tend to try to be very kind people to get sex from women, which generally includes not approaching them, because of other complex topics. Part of the reason certain people don’t approach women is because they notice that men like to be approached more than women, although the topic is more complex than this.  
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You see, white guys, they approach women like this: **a dee de dee, dee dee dee**

While black guys, they approach women like this: **doo do, doobie doobie do do**

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/22 "2014-07-15T18:29:57Z")

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This is just run of the mill Men’s Rights bullshit. We’ve had a few of them whine their way to banland here before. It’s more than a little disturbing, but it’s out there.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/23 "2014-07-15T18:30:41Z")

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> [@DaphneBlack](#):
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> Where does the obviously and wildly incorrect view that some tiny percentage of men are hooking up with all the women come from? Do these people not notice that a significant percentage (a majority?) of adult humans are partnered, usually with one other human?

Is it even worth asking?

Looking for lucid, rational thought where there clearly is none? That way lies madness.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/24 "2014-07-15T18:33:16Z")

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Huh. So he’s sexist _and_ racist.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/25 "2014-07-15T18:33:49Z")

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So, yet-another-limp-dick-who-cant-get-laid-decides-to-put-words-together-to-try-and-blame-an-entire-gender-for-his-social-replusiveness?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/26 "2014-07-15T18:41:17Z")

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> [@Ecmandu](#):
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> Part of the reason the black suicide rate is lower than the white population is because “game playing” is more prevalant in this culture (perhaps just on european continents), white males tend to try to be very kind people to get sex from women, which generally includes not approaching them, **because of other complex topics.** Part of the reason certain people don’t approach women is because they notice that men like to be approached more than women, **although the topic is more complex than this.**

I’m intrigued by the tactic… “This is just the overview. Once we’ve got this down, we can move on to the _really complex_ topics.”

Not intrigued enough to dredge through his manifesto.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/27 "2014-07-15T18:41:23Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> It’s far more complex and nuanced than that:
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> You see, white guys, they approach women like this: **a dee de dee, dee dee dee**
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> While black guys, they approach women like this: **doo do, doobie doobie do do**

Holy crap, he’s sprinkling in racism with the sexism now?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/28 "2014-07-15T18:44:25Z")

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It’s a close competition for who has the best pickup line - **Ecmandu** explaining that “sexual stratification causes suicide in a calm way”, or [**missyevelyn**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17549766&postcount=1)’s “I’m more bloated than a puffer fish”.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/29 "2014-07-15T19:04:25Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It’s a close competition for who has the best pickup line - **Ecmandu** explaining that “sexual stratification causes suicide in a calm way”, or [**missyevelyn**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17549766&postcount=1)’s “I’m more bloated than a puffer fish”.

Hey, I just had a great idea!

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/30 "2014-07-15T19:13:22Z")

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Missyevelyn is an _Amazonian_ puffer fish no less.

Busy first half hour on the board too.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/31 "2014-07-15T19:13:25Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> This is just run of the mill Men’s Rights bullshit. We’ve had a few of them whine their way to banland here before. It’s more than a little disturbing, but it’s out there.

But usually they have enough sense to lift their arguments from some halfway articulate MRA source and try to paraphrase. He seems to be going for some sort of next level. I’ve read mind-control porn where the Mad Scientist character and the fictional technobabble explanation for the plot device both sounded more sensible and plausible than he does in some of his posts.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/32 "2014-07-15T19:13:51Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Hey, I just had a great idea!

Don’t you dare suggest it!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/33 "2014-07-15T19:23:24Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> But usually they have enough sense to lift their arguments from some halfway articulate MRA source and try to paraphrase. He seems to be going for some sort of next level.

If this is how unintelligible his own thoughts are I shudder to think what it would be like to watch him discuss other people’s ideas.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/34 "2014-07-15T19:23:45Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Hey, I just had a great idea!

Let me guess: we all put on a musical together and you make the costumes? Dude, no one wants to do a musical with you. You’ve got to stop suggesting it.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/35 "2014-07-15T19:23:45Z")

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Well, at least now I know what it’s like to converse with someone who is completely insane.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/36 "2014-07-15T19:27:30Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Let me guess: we all put on a musical together and you make the costumes? Dude, no one wants to do a musical with you. You’ve got to stop suggesting it.

Just because you’ve got the legs and voice of a, well…you know, doesn’t mean the _rest_ of us aren’t up for a little song and dance, dude.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/37 "2014-07-15T19:29:44Z")

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> [@AndrewL](#):
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> It’s astonishing how these ‘why do women keep picking assholes over nice guys like me’ threads invariably end up demonstrating that women are individually making quite rational and reasonable choices in not having sex with the thread starter.

Yup, it’s a really weird thing that’s actually a little bit chilling once you start noticing it. There are a whole load of men out there whose thought-life seems to comprise “Why can’t I put my penis into a woman? - even when I try to do all the right actions that should lead to sex”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/38 "2014-07-15T19:39:16Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Well, at least now I know what it’s like to converse with someone who is completely insane.

Where have you been since 2002-hiding in a hole?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/39 "2014-07-15T19:43:58Z")

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Dude needs to get laid.

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/40 "2014-07-15T19:48:17Z")

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I guess Dave hasn’t had much to do since “Cerebus” ended.

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