# ...The fuck, Ecmandu?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 15, 2014, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182 "2014-07-15T17:15:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/61 "2014-07-15T23:07:10Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Thanks to the OP I now have a bastardized ABBA song going through my head:
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> _There was something in the air that night  
> Now what the fuck, **Ecmandu**?_

I went in a different direction.

\*If it hadn’t been for **Ecmandu**  
He’d 'ave been laid a long time ago  
Where did you come from, where did you go  
What in the fuck, now, \*\*Ecmandu \*_?_

The earworm’s on the house, BTW.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/62 "2014-07-15T23:21:38Z")

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It reads pretty mentally ill. A search on other boards shows very similar content and style. I’d just leave the guy alone.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/63 "2014-07-15T23:23:29Z")

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The “genetic freedom” thread just celebrated (if that’s the word) its tenth birthday. It was also racist, sexist and incoherent.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/64 "2014-07-15T23:49:04Z")

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> [@Tiktaalik](#):
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> I’m single and doing alright. But I don’t think I’m hooking up with 90% of the available women. I am nice. Also a bartender, that always helps.

It’s those short, stubby arms you use to pull yourself out of the lagoon with. Chicks dig those!

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/65 "2014-07-15T23:50:10Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> It reads pretty mentally ill. A search on other boards shows very similar content and style. I’d just leave the guy alone.

He’s been spamming other MBs with the same stuff? Hmmm. Maybe ban-worthy…

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/66 "2014-07-15T23:53:30Z")

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I don’t know that I’d call it spam. More like “preoccupation.”

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/67 "2014-07-15T23:59:38Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I went in a different direction.
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> \*If it hadn’t been for **Ecmandu**

I’m going to **Ecmandu**.  
That’s where I’m going to.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/68 "2014-07-16T00:13:00Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Hey, I just had a great idea!

But don’t you need a swimming pool to play Marco Polo?

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**Author:** ![Gagundathar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a183cd/32.png) [@Gagundathar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gagundathar)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/69 "2014-07-16T01:04:46Z")

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A sad and broken toy, indeed. Now mind you, we aren’t the most sane folks on the web (though we well be the most intelligent 🙂 ). But this person is offensive and is definitely being a jerk.  
To the bin, I say.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/70 "2014-07-16T01:12:01Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> I’m going to **Ecmandu**.  
> That’s where I’m going to.

_There’s a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall  
And the bells in the steeple toooooo.  
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird  
Is popping up to say, “Ecmandu” (Ecmandooo, Ecmandooo)  
Regretfully they tell us but firmly they compel us  
To say goodbye to yooooou._

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**Author:** ![The\_Dord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@The\_Dord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Dord)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/71 "2014-07-16T02:18:58Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> Do we have any idea about his general background - rough estimate of his age or anything like that?
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> His sentences are jumbles of “word salad” and he reeks of pseudo-intellectualism, accompanied by the world’s biggest chip on his shoulder because he can’t interact w/ women. He just sounds so… immature.

He probably wears a Fedora. 😛

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/72 "2014-07-16T02:21:45Z")

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_Apologies to Roy Orbison, Linda Ronstadt, and pretty much everyone_

(To “Blue Bayou”)

\*I feel so bad I feel unsatisfied  
Guys like me commit suicide  
Since we’re sexually stratified  
I’m Ecmandu

Won’t approach you, once or twice  
Female blackmail’s too high a price  
I’m not scared, baby, I’m just nice  
I’m Ecmandu

I’m having sex one day  
Come what may  
I’m Ecmandu!  
They should come across  
Bitches ain’t the boss  
Of Ecmandu!

I’ll fulfill my needs  
By posting my screeds  
Till my virgin face turns blue  
Sure, my audience laughs  
But **they’re** the psychopaths…

Not Ecmandu!\*

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**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/73 "2014-07-16T03:35:44Z")

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_To the tune of **This Old Man** _

This young man, he’s a nong\*  
He plays solo with his dong  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Throw a guy a bone  
This dumb shit still lives at home

This young man, he’s so dumb  
He thinks women owe him one  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Throw the guy a bone  
He will always be alone

This young man, whines all day  
He must be an MRA  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Please pick up a phone  
Send him to the crazy home

This young man, he’s a boor  
He skulks near the nightclub door  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Leave the girls alone  
That way one will take him home?

This young man, has no life  
Can’t get laid or find a wife  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Time to give it up  
You’re not having any luck

This young man, can’t date chicks  
Maybe take them to the flix?  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Rather have a moan  
His ideas just make us groan

This young man, he gets snide  
Women cause the suicide  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
That’s completely wrong  
With this one the crap is strong

This young man, can’t get a date  
Girls just don’t appreciate  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Won’t have any luck  
If all he wants to do is fuck

This young man, he is nice  
Why do girls treat him like lice?  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
Must be those jerk guys  
Women just won’t sympathize

This young man, full of hate  
It just seems to radiate  
With a knick knack paddy wack  
You have got to get a clue  
Or nobody will want to sleep with you  
\*nong - Australian slang for idiot

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/74 "2014-07-16T03:39:32Z")

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At least you don’t have to read that shit if you choose not to. I’ve met so many guys like him, who proclaim spiritual enlightenment and will corner you and _tell_ you shit, natter on endlessly until the only way to escape him is to deck him. Lots of these guys end up over here.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/75 "2014-07-16T03:47:24Z")

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And the mods won’t let us deck them, even in the Pit.

Stupid mods. I could just kill them all, and many of them aren’t even women.

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**Author:** ![Tiktaalik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@Tiktaalik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tiktaalik)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/76 "2014-07-16T04:44:02Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> It’s those short, stubby arms you use to pull yourself out of the lagoon with. Chicks dig those!

Guys like ecmandu make it easier

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/77 "2014-07-16T04:49:18Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Stupid mods. I could just kill them all, and many of them aren’t even women.

That’s just your suicidality talking, but it’s SOOOO HOT.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/78 "2014-07-16T04:54:24Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> It reads pretty mentally ill. A search on other boards shows very similar content and style. I’d just leave the guy alone.

I agree (having found his GD thread from this one), this is not a normal, sexually frustrated guy, or even a “normal” intense misogynist, this is mental illness, probably full blown psychosis of some sort. (And he would probably still be psychotic even if he had a girlfriend.)

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/79 "2014-07-16T07:43:23Z")

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Are ‘suicidality’ and ‘suicidology’ actually real words?

If so, maybe some people need a suicidoscopy, followed by a suicidectomy.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck-ecmandu/693182/80 "2014-07-16T07:52:31Z")

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@ folks like **Ecmandu** :

Pretty sure things like desperation, mental illness, and misogyny are examples of things which might turn a woman off. Approaching women with the goal being to find any vagina to stick one’s penis into could be another red flag. Uh, let’s see… feeling entitled to some vagina because in your mind you’re a much better man than other men, also seems a bit egotistical and creepy.

These are all the equivalent of walking around covered in your own vomit. It’s repulsive, gross, a little frightening, and quite unpleasant.

Here are some attitude adjustments which might be helpful:

A) Your initial goal should be to find a compatible woman who would enjoy \*spending time \*with you. Women enjoy sex, and so do you, that’s nice, but it does not make you compatible. Sex may come later, but for now, a woman wants to know \*who you are \*and if you are in any way interesting. Narrowing your search to actually compatible women rather than any woman could be useful. That also cuts down on negative outcomes such as trying to have sex with someone, rushing matters, turning the person off, and therefore increasing your instances of rejection.

B) Seeking a doctor to help with personality disorders or chemical imbalances could make you more well adjusted and moderate, someone who isn’t scary to be around.

C) Misogyny might attract female masochists, but for the most part, women aren’t interested in being vilified. So, rather than blame women for selecting against creepy, desperate, maladjusted, scornful men, think about why they make such a choice.

Yeah, the stereotypical alpha male might get more girls over the course of his life than you. Hell, the average male might as well.

What are they doing that you’re not?

Well, these men aren’t blaming women for all their problems. That’s more attractive than the alternative.

They have a confident attitude, rather than a whiny one. More women are attracted to a healthy level of confidence and charisma as opposed to someone who is down on himself and others all the time. Why do you think politicians smile and spew out verbal fluff that’s filled with almost infantile optimism all the time? Because that’s far less offensive than someone who is a blamer, a complainer, and a failure, and constantly surrendering.

They seem to give off a feeling like their entire world wouldn’t shatter if things didn’t work out between them and their girlfriend. That means there’s less stress and less seemingly at stake, so, the woman feels like the relationship can proceed at a pace that feels natural and comfortable.

In fact, sum up all of the above, and look at it this way:

D) Put yourself in their shoes. Who would you date?

Would you really date someone who is constantly critical of you, seemingly afraid of you, intimidated by you, holds malice toward you, and has an unhealthy level of obsession about you? Or would you rather date someone normal and less full of drama?

You may also be viewing your male rivals far more negatively than is warranted. You dislike them because they’re succeeding, and when they succeed, you seem to fail. But you’re viewing things as a zero sum game.

How can there be so very many men who are simultaneously popular with the ladies? I’m pretty sure there are enough women in the world for there to not be a total lack of mates to pick from if you, too, suddenly lost most of your negative qualities and became popular with women.

So, it’s not the fault of other men that you can’t find women. Believe it or not, if you were a different sort of man, you would be just as popular as many of these other men. Not all women are taken. Hell, not all women are monogamous.

Ergo, it’s not because most other men are evil jerks that are stealing women from you that is the reason why you are alone.

There are slightly more females in the world than males, if I remember correctly. That means if we all paired off, there would be women left over. I promise you it’s possible for you to find a mate even if somehow every other man on earth found one before you did.

It’s not other men’s fault you can’t find a woman. It’s yours, and yours alone.

And some pretty butt ugly dudes have been spotted with nice women, and they’re not all rich. Sometimes… personality matters.

And I also guarantee you, there’s a crapton of dudes with tiny dicks sporting girlfriends on their arm. I guarantee you that has a lot to do with their attitude, and how they treat women.

You see, men lucked out. Most women on earth are biologically attracted to us men. That means, all we have to do, is not fuck it up.

It’s really that simple.

All we have to do is not send them signals that says REJECT REJECT REJECT REJECT

Just don’t convince them you’re a creepy hateful sicko, and you should be fine.

Take care of yourself, groom yourself, wash yourself, smell and dress and act nice, and somehow, gloriously, a woman will be attracted to you eventually.

Don’t ask me what men did to deserve such a wonderful gift. But you can certainly fuck it up for yourself, and others, by acting like a total douche to these women who are already predisposed to like you for some reason.

And then folks like me end up dating some woman who has had a run of abusive boyfriends and cheater boyfriends and stalker boyfriends and they’re kind of wounded and distrustful, and it’s really hard for even someone like me to get them to open up again. So I’d really appreciate it if you men out there who have trouble treating women right, or have trouble with fidelity, or are alcoholic jackasses, or are misogynistic assholes, or are creepily obsessed with achieving coitus with any random woman, would either straighten the fuck up or just give up.

Sometimes _I_ have trouble with women, but the trouble\* I’m\* having is that women have to fight through a sea of total fuckwits to find a decent dude, and then when they do, they can have trouble accepting simple things like: I would never yell at them, or cheat on them. It’s not in my character. But the very idea that such behaviors aren’t in someone’s character just completely gets rejected from their minds because they have been taught by experience that all men behave a certain way. And they will always fear that I’d do such a thing. And that’s a pretty unfair situation for both me and her, I’d kindly appreciate it if you dudes who are broken in the head would just give up. It would make everyone a lot happier.

But in case you don’t, you should try a complete personality overhaul. The advice contained within this post is just a very brief beginning on what you need to do to not be a total fuckcreep. Doctors and drugs might be required, but mainly, what you need to adjust is your attitude. A lot of changes will happen far more easily if you stop approaching women like they are unapproachable and the enemy.

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