# the FUCK?! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 23, 2012, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024 "2012-06-23T04:04:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/141 "2012-06-24T06:33:10Z")
I usually cringe at “me too” posts, but it’s just been said as well or better than I could hope to, so… > [@echo7tango](#): > > WHOA - STOP RIGHT THERE. > > I don’t want to project onto **umkay** what she should and shouldn’t verify, but, well, I will do just that because for me I will accept **umkay** at face value per her posts, and do not need any independent verification of her existence by any mods, just like I don’t need that from **WordMan** or any other Doper here. > > I’ll believe what I choose to believe, based on the information available to me. As should we all. My being a Doper here doesn’t obligate me to flash my ID to y’all to validate my existence. > > **umkay** , you still rock and even though I’m old enough to be your Dad and I’m happily married, from what little I’ve learned of you through your posts, your honesty, wit and wisdom, I’m definitely crushing on you. Keep it up, girl, and maintain your privacy as you see fit, not as anyone else here sees fit. This, all of this, exactly. Including the older, married and crushing parts… > [@simster](#): > > **Umkay** , > I had not participated in the previous post - but I did read it religously - IF you were an internet fake/hoax, you were the best one yet. > > Fact is - I fell for the notOkay hoax simply because you had previously mentioned being out with a life threatening complications that were still being figured out - so I was worried when you hadn’t responded to the main thread in a few days. > > Never did I consider your original thread or any of your other postings a hoax or faked - they were too consistent and the voice/facts stated within them were all too clear that you are who you say you are with the life experiences you’ve stated. > > Basically, don’t let the few that suddenly question that to cloud your judgement - you’re voice (funny how a post can have a voice, but I assure you it does) is now a part of these boards and I would hate to see it go. > > You have every right of course to decide otherwise - but you have nothing to ‘prove’ here - just be yourself and try not to let the words of a few turn you off to it. > > - sim As well as this (except for the “did not participate” part.) Well, except for the cavalier freedom **simster** seems to be giving you to leave – we’re (OK, I’m) not having any of that! :mad: (J/K :), won’t actually hunt you down – I’ll just be sorry to see you go if you decide to) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/142 "2012-06-24T12:36:21Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > That is a good idea. > > By any chance are we also mentioned in your will? Is it too late to say dibs on your stereo? 😃 > > I recommend all of you take these vital steps. Especially that last one. i do have a lovely moose sculpture… perhaps i’ll add instructions for one last mega white elephant. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/143 "2012-06-24T13:10:07Z")
**umkay** has to prove her existance? How will that help? The fucking president of the United States is still thought to be a Muslim by many people. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/144 "2012-06-24T13:44:07Z")
C’mon, I don’t actually believe any of y’all exist. Why should **umkay** be any different? Seriously, all we have to go on for any of us are our words, so until proven otherwise, all we can do is accept it at face value. No need to provide 3 forms of ID. ---
**Author:** ![Jman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jman/32/4416_2.png) [@Jman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jman)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/145 "2012-06-24T14:03:15Z")
Is anyone actually asking for umkay to provide any ‘proof’ that she is who she says she is? I might have missed it if someone did. The only thing mentioned was that for a brief time, given the spoofing of NotOkay, that it crossed the mind of a few people. As I said, for about three seconds, I thought back to Wally, but immediately dismissed it as lunacy in this case, as it is quite obvious that **Umkay** is genuine. **umkay** , I agree with the sentiments of the others…you have nothing to prove, and you certainly do not need to reveal more information about yourself in an effort to ‘convince’ anyone of anything. Now, on to more important things, like…has your brother installed any new cool super gadgets for your flying chair of doom? ---
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/146 "2012-06-24T14:08:49Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > **umkay** has to prove her existance? > > How will that help? The fucking president of the United States is still thought to be a Muslim by many people. Wait, **umkay** is a Muslim…? 😕 “Not that there’s anything wrong with that…” 😃 (Can Muslims be Zombified? :p) ---
**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/147 "2012-06-24T14:47:22Z")
> [@Jman](#): > > Is anyone actually asking for umkay to provide any ‘proof’ that she is who she says she is? I might have missed it if someone did. The only thing mentioned was that for a brief time, given the spoofing of NotOkay, that it crossed the mind of a few people. As I said, for about three seconds, I thought back to Wally, but immediately dismissed it as lunacy in this case, as it is quite obvious that **Umkay** is genuine. Read the two active Pit threads for some examples (or don’t, if you want to keep your faith in humanity). ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/148 "2012-06-24T14:50:55Z")
I’ll post and then I’m taking a day or two away from this. For the record I never doubted **umkay** and don’t now. The _only_ reason I suggested she interact with a mod was because _she_ felt frustrated about the situation. It seemed like a simple way to cut to the chase. That’s it. I feel old. To me, the Internet remains both a great connector AND a huge layer between people. I think of the old cartoon with the caption “On the Internet, no one knows you’re a dog!”. And other threads where someone was actually misrepresenting themselves, let alone the crimes we read about online misrepresentation. So her frustration at the turn of events seemed very understandable. I am sorry if my suggestion came across as anything else **umkay**. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/149 "2012-06-24T16:01:21Z")
> [@rocking\_chair](#): > > i do have a lovely moose sculpture… > > perhaps i’ll add instructions for one last mega white elephant. Oh, so now you’re making threats. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/150 "2012-06-24T17:29:07Z")
Yes Virginia there is an **umkay** I came to the Dope in search of knowledge and firmly believe that most of us did as well, I do not lie on the Dope and believe that most of you tell the truth as well, I stay out of the PIT because I see enough of the dark side of Humanity. Call me naive, call me a fool, tell me I over use commas and write run-on sentences but I have no doubt as to the veracity of **umkay**. **notokay** you have violated me and mine as well as the rules we here all try to abide by. I have no idea of what you were trying to accomplish but what you have done is made an enemy of me. This is my home, our home and you shat on the living room carpet. Do not find yourself in a room alone with me or you will live up to your screen name **notokay**. The people here might be ones and zeros but they are, to me, as real as my flesh and blood friends. I rise every day and check in on my fellow **Mumpers** , see if I have any truths for **GQ** , opine in **IMHO** and even check out **GD**. I am a proud Doper, if still a newbie. I am not sure that I have a point here, other than my anger at YKW and maybe this post belongs in the pit so apologies to all the Dopers and Mods if it does. I am just glad that we got our girl back, crazy flying chair O’death and all. **CAPT** ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/151 "2012-06-24T19:35:54Z")
> [@simster](#): > > **Umkay** , > I had not participated in the previous post - but I did read it religously - IF you were an internet fake/hoax, you were the best one yet. Disagree-- a “good” hoax should at least be difficult to pull off. It requires making people believe something otherwise unbelievable… A witty young quadrapalegic with a penchant for writing may be notable, but certainly not unbelvable. Getting people to fall for that would be as good a hoax as if I started an “ask the barber” thread and it was later uncovered I was an electrician. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/152 "2012-06-24T20:39:34Z")
> [@Celyn](#): > > When I bother to look, I realise that I am not really a holly bush. 🙂 Burn her! 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/153 "2012-06-24T21:22:00Z")
Hey **umkay** , didn’t you know you’re meant to wait for three days before coming back from the dead? How are you going to convince anyone that you’re the Messiah now? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/154 "2012-06-24T23:55:21Z")
> [@hermette](#): > > Hey **umkay** , didn’t you know you’re meant to wait for three days before coming back from the dead? How are you going to convince anyone that you’re the Messiah now? 😉 She gets up and walks. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2012, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/155 "2012-06-24T23:58:41Z")
I’m **umkay** and so’s my wife! ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/156 "2012-06-25T00:02:19Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I’m **umkay** and so’s my wife! But WHO is Wally?? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tapu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@tapu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tapu)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/157 "2012-06-25T00:03:32Z")
> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#): > > She gets up and walks. Now THAT was wise. Kudos. ---
**Author:** ![Cinnamon\_Imp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@Cinnamon\_Imp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cinnamon_Imp)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/158 "2012-06-25T07:19:44Z")
> [@tapu](#): > > Now THAT was wise. Kudos. Walks on water, or it doesn’t count! ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/159 "2012-06-25T07:57:07Z")
> [@Bootis](#): > > Disagree-- a “good” hoax should at least be difficult to pull off. It requires making people believe something otherwise unbelievable… A witty young quadrapalegic with a penchant for writing may be notable, but certainly not unbelvable. Getting people to fall for that would be as good a hoax as if I started an “ask the barber” thread and it was later uncovered I was an electrician. based on evidence from other thread - I am rescinding my post to umKay until further evidence (one way or the other) is received - at this point, its not looking good and it appears I was duped. I don’t feel bad about it- I think the thread (up until the end) was fascinating in many ways and I think I learned a few things out of it. I wil say this - a good hoax does not have to be difficult - it just has to work - the best hoaxes aer clearly more difficult to do - but this was still a very well done hoax given that other, more knowledgable on the subject, posters were also taken in. ---
**Author:** ![VanillaGorilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@VanillaGorilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanillaGorilla)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024/160 "2012-06-25T08:23:21Z")
I don’t post much, so you don’t know me, **Umkay** , but still, I’m very happy that you are well! I actually read this thread before I saw the unpleasant end of the “ask the…” thread (of which I read the whole thing), so I never had to do any sort of mourning for you, but it’s great that you are doing ok, in any case! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuck/626024.md?page=9)