# The fuckers gassed a dog...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 20, 2002, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715 "2002-08-20T06:50:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![tramp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4491bb/32.png) [@tramp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tramp)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2002, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715/61 "2002-08-23T13:38:21Z")

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Oh I love a good conspiracy theory early in the morning. It goes very nicely with my daily bowl of Froot Loops.

I guess it is time to get the old tinfoil hat on…

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**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715/62 "2002-08-26T18:29:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Max Torque \*  
> \*\*[Others agree with you](http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/dog.html), **airdisc**. I have yet to see the video, but just having heard about it, my every synapse is screaming “fake! Bullshit PR move to get the American people outraged enough to support a war!” \*\*

Lovely link, Max Torque. “whatreallyhappened” indeed. We can read such “facts” as:

Hawaii is a sovereign nation  
The US sank the Krusk  
The White House covered up the Vincent Foster murder  
Flight 800 was shot down  
The Clinton death list  
Tim McVey was a patsy, and the OKC bombing was perpetrated by the US government

Plus the inevitable JFK and MLK links which i didn’t even bother to read the summary of. Please do not post crap links to support your claims.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715/63 "2002-08-26T22:00:39Z")

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Oh please. First, I found the link on FARK; it’s not like I’m a regular reader of “whatreallyhappened”. I just found what they said about the video to be interesting, and, like them, I find the video suspicious.

Second, if you’re really interested in “fighting ignorance”, you’ll be aware that attacking the source rather than the information is a pretty poor debate tactic. Even raving loons are correct sometimes. And doesn’t fighting ignorance really mean that you should consider _all_ available information?

And finally, go fuck yourself. Until you have “Moderator” or “Administrator” under your name, you don’t get to tell the other kids what they can and can’t post, mmkay?

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2002, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715/64 "2002-08-26T23:23:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jackmannii \*  
> \*\*“Reports” from whom?
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> CNN is trying to stampede Americans into war?
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> Do I catch a whiff of bizarre conspiracy theory? \*\*

The story of **CNN** s priority being getting a “scoop” on other networks was reported here on our SBS Television.

Reports on [CNN itself](http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/18/robertson.btsc/) seem to indicate that getting the tapes to air on CNN was a higher priority than getting them into the hands of the US military or US intelligence organisations (note, that the report doesn’t make any mention of CNN having even contacted the US military or intelligence organisations to advise them of the existence of the tapes, let alone to ask for assistance in getting the tapes out of Afghanistan).

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> But I was still hundreds of miles from Kabul and I 'd yet to figure out how I was going to get this scoop back to CNN’s headquarters in the United States.

Note that the author’s concern does **not** seem to have been getting the tapes safely into the hands of US authorities.

Conspiracy to incite US citizens to war? I never suggested anything of the kind. Cynical journalism which puts “scooping” the other networks above the national interest? Certainly. And yes, I’m sure that CNN will claim fear that once the tapes were in government hands they would become classified and never see the light of day in unedited form. That CNN had a duty to show the world the extent of the evil of Al-Qaeda and they did not wish to risk government suppression of the proof of this evil.

The bottom line is that those tapes were worth money to CNN and its affiliates, and their handling of the tapes reflected that. Let’s not forget that from a counter-intelligence point of view it may well have been decided that it was preferable Al-Qaeda remained unaware that the tapes had been discovered and analysed. CNN’s actions took the choice to keep that information suppressed away from US intelligence organisations.

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**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2002, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715/65 "2002-08-27T00:08:47Z")

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> U.S. officials said the intelligence community has long known about Al Qaeda’s desire to get their hands on chemical and biological weapons – and from what they’ve seen so far, it doesn’t appear these tapes provide anything new on that front.
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> They further doubt that they’ll be able to get any “actionable intelligence from them,” meaning they don’t expect that the tapes will lead them to any new suspects.
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> **But officials said that CNN, which obtained the tapes, had not given them access to the videos yet, and that the Pentagon would like to see them in their entirety.**

From [this report](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,60778,00.html) on Fox.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2002, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715/66 "2002-08-27T00:15:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by belladonna \*  
> \*\*But that’s not true at all.
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> When’s the last time you erected a shrine and brought flowers to the mosquito you squished onto your leg? \*\*

(et cetera)

First off, I should point out that I _am_ a vegetarian. Secondly, I say a prayer frequently for the things that I’ve inadvertently harmed. Including plants.

As for the dog gassing… I didn’t see it and I refuse to see it. Knowing that things are dying is bad enough without having to watch it. Yes, I think it is horrible that they killed a dog. YES I think that it is important and relevant. NO that does not mean that the other things aren’t (even more) important and relevant. I just add it to my long list of reasons I hate their guts.

And yes, I want them to die. Evil things should die. I don’t mourn when evil dies.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2002, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuckers-gassed-a-dog/124715/67 "2002-08-27T00:22:17Z")

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Btw, re: if the movie is faked… do they mean that the video isn’t from the sources claimed or that the dog wasn’t actually killed?

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