Of course shit is going to happen, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have some control of at least some of what happens and some control over the impact. We know we’re going to die, as we’ve known since the dawn of our existence, and yet human civilization still keeps trying to find ways to make life longer and more pleasant. It’s people like you who stand in our way, so fuck off.
Acceptable fatalism is to accept that there are things that cannot be changed.
Unacceptable nihilism is to assume nothing can be.
“Stand in your way” of doing what exactly?
I change what I can and try not to lose my shit over every idiot who posts something stupid on social media.
Just shut the fuck up.
At least you’re self aware.
Yeah, society can, but as that article’s author so adroitly points out, Americans (a majority of white Americans, to be specific) reject the idea of any kind of society at all.
I think the chief problem is that any notion of an American “society” is established on a foundation of race-based capitalist hierarchy. Now that whites have had to share more and more of their physical space and their economic and political power with non-whites in ways that are impossible to ignore, a majority of whites want “their” country back, and they’re willing to resort to all sorts of tactics to keep it.
No. 
I agree with this sentiment. I think we would have some pretty strong disagreements, however, on who is doing the producing and who is doing the destroying.
Either way, I do get the feeling we are headed into a modern dark age. If society does recover several hundred years from now, they will look back and see Trump for what he is, a modern day Emperor Diocletian and Constantine rolled into one. The man who triggered the whole thing. Fortunately for us, this isn’t 476 CE with the barbarians at the gate. It’s more like a combo of 285 CE and 313 CE, when Diocletian split the Empire up and Constantine declared Christianity the religion of the Empire. Unless we return to having good presidents (hint, Obama will likely go down as the last good one if Biden loses), the rest of the story is just a formality, and soon we will be at our 476 CE.
Try harder.
You are losing your shit about what people are posting on social media right now.
Another difference is that in 476, there was all this oil and minerals around waiting to be discovered.
If we fall, then if anyone rebuilds from the ashes, we’ve already taken all the easy to get to resources.
A standard post-apocalyptic trope is mining the dead civilization’s landfills; they’re the only “rich ore” left.
I really don’t think I am.
You are putting quite a bit of whine about something that doesn’t seem to bother you, then.
I would prefer that the US not spin futilely into despotism, but I am truly worried about climate change. We have to fix it while we we can. Nothing else matters if we can’t do that.
We’re going to have a lot more trouble doing that if we re-elect this particular would-be despot.
So I don’t think you can separate out that issue.
Oh, I absolutely agree that we can’t separate problems. Trump has to go.
You just described trump in a nutshell. No wonder he got elected.
I think we probably missed that opportunity. Even if you were take away Trump and COVID, there are still huge catastrophic problems that the US not only wasn’t addressing, but actively preventing the rest of the world from addressing. To quote the thread “The World is Fucking Fucked!”
Three F-Bombs in a six word thread title! I’m impressed! LOL