# The Fuel Mileage thread, what's your MPG?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 17, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659 "2019-06-17T22:17:00Z")\
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1990 F150 pickup (4x4) - 13 mpg  
1995 Dodge Dakota Pickup - 20 mpg  
1974 VW Beelte - 35 to 40 mpg  
1989 Cadillac - 23 mpg (pretty good for a big V8)  
1997 Harley FXDWG motorcyle - 65 to 70 mpg  
1996 Honda Nighthawk motorcycle - 70 to 75 mpg

Almost all of my driving is 40 to 50 mph 2-lane roads.

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**Author:** ![control-z](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@control-z](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/control-z)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/42 "2019-06-18T15:54:37Z")

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2013 Focus ST. I generally get 26-27 MPG in rural/small town driving. Can get up to 33 on highway trips.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/43 "2019-06-18T17:30:05Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Is that per Imperial gallon? If so, that converts to 40-50 US mpg; quite impressive. Those Eurodiesels are pretty awesome. I rented a car a few months ago and they gave me a 2015 VW Golf Sportswagen TDI. I was getting some wicked mileage out of it, around 50 US mpg on highway. I couldn’t really give you an accurate city number, as we were in the suburbs of Phoenix and there was very little city-style stop-and-go traffic. Pretty smooth highway most of the time. And that’s with a rather large car by European standards.

Yes, imperial gallon and manual transmission. I’m not a slow driver but I am quite efficient, still, I didn’t have to struggle for those figures.

The VW petrol engines are pretty damn good as well. I had a 1.5 petrol Golf in Iceland for a week last year and on twisty, rough roads and studded tyres with an auto box I was averaging 45 mpg. (and it was a pretty rapid car as well)

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/44 "2019-06-18T17:33:11Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> For those who have never experienced a small diesel passenger car, The driving dynamics are quite different than a gasoline car, diesels shove you back in your seat from a stop, and under power, they pull like a freight train, there’s always torque when you need it
> 
> Diesel Miata, please! 🙂

Electric motors do that too. An electric Miata would be awesome. There is the Tesla Roadster, I guess.

When I’m in my gas powered Miata I frequently get left in the dust by Tesla drivers.

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/45 "2019-06-18T18:21:23Z")

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Every car I have owned have had 25-30 MPG, 7 of them so far.

The last two have been AWD, so that seems a improvement, however the mpg has slipped a bit under them.

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/46 "2019-06-18T18:53:22Z")

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About 4 miles/kWh in summer. Closer to 3 miles/kWh in winter. When it switches over to gasoline power on a road trip, about 35 mpg.

(2013 Chevy Volt)

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/47 "2019-06-18T18:56:44Z")

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Regular Prius here. Around 45 in both the city and reasonable highway speeds. 40 or a bit less when I hit 80 or over. 50 or higher on a low-speed-limit surface road with few stops.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/48 "2019-06-18T18:57:36Z")

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2009 Toyota Corolla. I also calculate MPG when I fill up - this morning I got 35.2 mpg. My commute is 16 mi one-way, and more than 14 of that is freeway.

I make a game out of coasting up to stop lights in hopes they will change before I get there and drafting off trucks and so on. I have made my commute so often I know pretty well what speed I need to go to make all the lights.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/49 "2019-06-18T19:03:41Z")

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2014 Toyota Camry Hybrid - Averages around 40 mpg. mostly driving around the suburbs. Good car, al in all.

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/50 "2019-06-18T19:39:36Z")

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Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1.4MA, about 35 mpg.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn moto g(6) met Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/51 "2019-06-18T19:52:19Z")

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> [@WildaBeast](#):
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> Electric motors do that too. An electric Miata would be awesome. There is the Tesla Roadster, I guess.
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> When I’m in my gas powered Miata I frequently get left in the dust by Tesla drivers.

I definitely respect the performance potential of a properly set up electric car (built purely for performance, as the electric motor has vast potential), but two factors I would miss are;

1; shifting gears, it’s an integral part of the driving experience, and makes you one with the car, a good manual transmission gives an unmatched sense of really “connecting” with the car, it’s a very engaging experience, and the “one speed” of the electric just takes away some of the “soul” or “life” of the experience

Given a choice between a Tesla with Ludicrous Mode, and a Porsche 911 with conventional manual, I’d take the Porsche every time, yes the Tesla is technically faster and more efficient, the 911 has “soul”, history and other intangibles

2; the _SOUND_ of the internal combustion engine, it just sounds right, you’re basically being propelled by a metal box of explosions, powered by liquid dinosaurs, there’s just something visceral about the sound and feel!

Which would sound better to you? The whine of high voltage current, or the thundering rumble of a metal box of explosions made from liquid dinosaurs?

Yes, yes, the electric is more efficient and potentially environmentally friendly, but the ICE just _sounds_ right.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/52 "2019-06-18T20:00:55Z")

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> [@MacTech](#):
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> 2; the _SOUND_ of the internal combustion engine, it just sounds right, you’re basically being propelled by a metal box of explosions, powered by liquid dinosaurs, there’s just something visceral about the sound and feel!
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> Which would sound better to you? The whine of high voltage current, or the thundering rumble of a metal box of explosions made from liquid dinosaurs?

I’d pick a regular-sounding engine sound, but _any_ knocking or irregularity reminds me of the loud-pipe motorcycle troll brigade, so I prefer electric to a rumbling engine.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/53 "2019-06-19T11:07:39Z")

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2004 Expedition 4x4 5.4, gauge is indicating approximately 19.something last time I drove it. I use it primarily for camping, and it gets good highway mileage (relatively speaking, of course!). Michigan is mostly flat, as far as roads are concerned. Although now that I have the 2019, I don’t use it as much.

2019 Expedition 4x4 3.5 turbo, the gauge is sitting at 16.1 this morning. It’s a daily driver with primarily urban traffic, and it’s kind of fun in “Sport” mode. If I put it in “Econo” mode and stick to the highways, I can coax about 23 mpg out of it.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/54 "2019-06-19T12:02:41Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> The VW petrol engines are pretty damn good as well.

+1

Drive a 2017 VW Tiguan 2L petrol auto.  
Best result was 5.6L/100km = 51 mpg (imperial) = 42 mpg (us). Fully laden with my three teenage kids and a weeks luggage.  
Travelled 950km (590 miles) in 8:30 hours. Still had 150 km range when we got home.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/55 "2019-06-19T15:22:49Z")

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My daily driver is a 2006 Honda Ridgeline, 3.5 V-6, I get about 14 mpg in town, 22 on the highway. I also have a 2009 Cadillac CTS\*, 3.6 V-6. I have only driven it about 1000 miles since replacing the transmission and it is showing 17.1 mpg. Taking it on a 2000 mile trip starting next week, that will show what I can really get for mileage.

- Bought the car about 2 months ago for $700, the seller said he blew the engine. It was making a terrible racket when running. Got it home and found the problem was in the transmission, something broke where the torque converter mates with the transmission. Bought a used trans for $1800 and paid $400 to have it installed. Car drives like a dream and only has 54,000 miles on it. Not bad for a car that cost total about $3000.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/56 "2019-06-19T23:42:09Z")

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2019 Jeep Cherokee High Altitude. 6 cylinder. I only really drive in the city, so I’m getting 20 mpg.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/57 "2019-06-20T08:58:01Z")

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The Big Old Fords get 8 mpg, empty or towing the Pyramid of Giza. The German fleet are all around low 20’s. Don’t know about the rest. I’ve got some motorcycles that do maybe 50?

> [@BrickBat](#):
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> 2018 Chevrolet Camaro SS.
> 
> Back and forth to work, 27 mile round trip. 32 of the 52 interstate. Average MPG consistently in the high 25s.

I’m somewhat impressed by this.

> [@polar\_bear](#):
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> Alfa Romeo Giulietta 1.4MA, about 35 mpg.

I’m flat jealous of this. I want an Alfa. ☹

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/58 "2019-06-20T13:04:40Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I’ve got a 2012 with just under 70,000 miles. Otherwise my numbers are basically the same.

Yeah, that SKYAVTIV technology or whatever they call it works a treat. I had a 2004 Mazda 3 (without SKYACTIV) that officially was EPA rated at something like 24/32, but I squeezed more like 25/34 out of it. Once I even got around 34.5 on all highway miles. The 2014 (with SKYACTIV) is officially 29/39, but I can eke out around 42-43 if I do all highway.

I get a little frustrated with my wife’s 2016 Kia, as I’m so used to these sorts of numbers. While highway it’s perfectly fine (in the mid-to-high-30s), in the city, I can barely get 21 MPG. (It’s rated as up to 26 mpg city, but I’ve never gotten numbers anywhere near that here in Chicago.) Compared to a lot of the numbers here, it’s an ecocar, but it’s just a little surprising for its size, engine, and weight how much lower my city mileage is compared with even the older Mazda. The Mazdas are manuals, and the Kia is auto, but that shouldn’t matter in this day and age (my understanding is that autos perform as well or better than humans in terms of fuel efficient driving today. And, yes, I do have the Kia set on “Eco” mode.)

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/59 "2019-06-20T15:50:44Z")

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My Kenworths average about 6 mpg.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-fuel-mileage-thread-whats-your-mpg/835659/60 "2019-06-20T17:17:09Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> The Big Old Fords get 8 mpg, empty or towing the Pyramid of Giza.

And that reminds me of the worst mileage vehicle I ever drove.

When I was in high school, in the early 1980s, my parents owned a 1969 Jeep Wagoneer, and it wound up being the car that I drove frequently. In 2WD mode, the thing got about 10mpg on the highway, 8 or so in town. If you locked the front hubs (which, of course, you had to get out of the car to do manually), and went into 4WD mode, the MPG dropped to about 5. :eek:

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