# The future of Star Wars without Carrie Fisher **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 28, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779 "2016-12-28T16:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/1 "2016-12-28T16:05:27Z")
I hope it isn’t too soon to talk about this. While I realize Carrie Fisher’s death was one of the most devastating of CelebrityGeddon 2016, I also can’t help thinking about how it will affect the next chapters in the Star Wars saga. I am of course not privy to how much Leia was planned to figure into the story going forward, though one could reasonably assume it was quite a bit. (Force Awakens spoiler for the 3 of you who haven’t seen it) After a son kills his father, you’d have to think that his mother would be pretty heavily involved in what happens next. No doubt Abrams and company will explain her absence in a way that makes sense; not that there is a choice anyway. It’s just that the next film will surely be different than it otherwise would have been. Please don’t hate me. This saddens me as much as anyone. I find it interesting to speculate, that’s all. (Let’s say there’s no need to box spoilers from previous films after the OP.) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/2 "2016-12-28T16:08:46Z")
Fisher finished all of her scenes for Episode VIII, so she’ll be in the next one. Perhaps a slight re-write to kill off Leia ahead of Ep IX? ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/3 "2016-12-28T16:12:46Z")
I didn’t realize they were that far into filming VIII. I guess that makes sense given the lengthy post-production of these films. Hopefully it will be a worthy swan song. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/4 "2016-12-28T16:13:21Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Fisher finished all of her scenes for Episode VIII, so she’ll be in the next one. Perhaps a slight re-write to kill off Leia ahead of Ep IX? I would say this is the way they’re going to go. It’s fortunate that she finished her scenes for 8 because it’s definitely early enough in the process to write her out of 9. Hell, you don’t even need to disregard her, you can make her an active part of the movie without showing her or having her talk. Just have them reference her. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/5 "2016-12-28T16:32:41Z")
[del]Poochie[/del] General Organa died on her way back to her home planet… ---
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/6 "2016-12-28T16:43:08Z")
I’m not convinced it will be that big of a deal. After all, Peter Cushing had a large role in **Rogue One** , and he died over 20 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/7 "2016-12-28T16:57:56Z")
If Leia is important to the story of episode IX, let them re-cast the role. What would they have done if Fisher had died before Episode VII? It’s no more a slight to Fisher than getting a new James Bond was to Sean Connery. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/8 "2016-12-28T17:03:22Z")
She probably is important in Episode 8, but Disney knows that they can’t just keep leaning on the old stars. They were probably already planning on scaling them back as the movies went on, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/9 "2016-12-28T17:05:53Z")
Total WAG on my part but if they kill Leia off in Episode 8 then that could provide more incentive for Luke. He lost Han and Leia, all of his family, the only thing left is to save Kylo Ren. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/10 "2016-12-28T17:23:46Z")
Well, they do have her face scan that they already used for Rogue One, so… ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/11 "2016-12-28T19:51:11Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Fisher finished all of her scenes for Episode VIII, so she’ll be in the next one. Perhaps a slight re-write to kill off Leia ahead of Ep IX? Like you said, they have her scenes for episode 8 but I hope they don’t need to do re-shoots of Leia-centric scenes. I wouldn’t mind a new actress. It worked for Harry Potter. But a lot of fans would lose their shit. They’d probably be better off just writing her out. Maybe a scene with Rey, Finn, and Luke heading to alliance HQ, excited to see her, and they get a message that she passed away suddenly. Their could be a moment of shock and then maybe a two minute long scene where they reminisce. It could be a nice tribute. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/12 "2016-12-28T20:24:04Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [del]Poochie[/del] General Organa died on her way back to her home planet… Radar: “The spaceship spun into the planet … There were no survivors.” ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/13 "2016-12-28T20:26:08Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Radar: “The spaceship spun into the planet … There were no survivors.” Gary Burghoff is still alive, it would be a cool cameo. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/14 "2016-12-28T20:49:04Z")
Leia was portrayed with CGI by an actress named [Ingvild Deila](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingvild_Deila). [Today’s relevant Cracked](http://www.cracked.com/blog/please-donE28099t-cgi-carrie-fisher-plea-to-star-wars/). ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/15 "2016-12-28T22:23:56Z")
> [@cmkeller](#): > > What would they have done if Fisher had died before Episode VII? Not write Leia into it, most likely. It’s not like Leia was integral to the story. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/16 "2016-12-28T23:00:47Z")
I would bet good money that they’ll kill her off in episode 8. No fans will be clamoring for a recast or CGI Leia in episode 9 – they/we would just want her to have as worthy a death as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/17 "2016-12-28T23:02:23Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Leia was portrayed with CGI by an actress named [Ingvild Deila](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingvild_Deila). > > [Today’s relevant Cracked](http://www.cracked.com/blog/please-donE28099t-cgi-carrie-fisher-plea-to-star-wars/). A bit Ludditish of Cracked. Myself, I’m not only wishing for utterly believable digital actors, but systems so good that you can replace actors on the fly on a whim while watching a movie. See what _The Terminator_ would have looked like with O.J. Simpson or _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ with Tom Selleck (as were actual casting possibilities) or if the mood hits me _The Terminator_ with Lou Costello and _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ with Dakota Fanning. (Book recommendation time: [_Remake_](https://www.sfsite.com/~silverag/willis.html), by Connie Willis.) ---
**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/18 "2016-12-28T23:22:10Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > A bit Ludditish of Cracked. Myself, I’m not only wishing for utterly believable digital actors, but systems so good that you can replace actors on the fly on a whim while watching a movie. See what _The Terminator_ would have looked like with O.J. Simpson or _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ with Tom Selleck (as were actual casting possibilities) or if the mood hits me _The Terminator_ with Lou Costello and _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ with Dakota Fanning. > > (Book recommendation time: [_Remake_](https://www.sfsite.com/~silverag/willis.html), by Connie Willis.) Reminds me of a bit in Mark Leyner’s novel _Et Tu, Babe_. The local video store has a machine that can replace any actor with Arnold Schwarzenegger. > [@](#): > > OK. I’d like My Fair Lady with Arnold Schwarzenegger as Professor Henry Higgins, Amadeus with Arnold Schwarzenegger as Salieri instead of F. Murray Abraham, The Diary of Anne Frank with Arnold Schwarzenegger as Anne Frank, West Side Story with Arnold Schwarzenegger as Tony, It’s a Wonderful Life with Arnold Schwarzenegger instead of Jimmy Stewart, Ghandi with Arnold Schwarzenegger instead of Ben Kingsley, Bird with Arnold Schwarzenegger as Charlie Parker instead of Forest Whitaker…There’s a documentary called Imagine about John Lennon…It’ll be Schwarzenegger playing with the Beatles on Ed Sullivan and Schwarzenegger doing those peace things in bed with Yoko Ono and everything… ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/19 "2016-12-28T23:25:10Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > [del]Poochie[/del] General Organa died on her way back to her home planet… Alderaan? I guess if we allow time travel… Or is there some newer canon that gives her another “home world?” Just wondering. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2016, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/20 "2016-12-28T23:28:11Z")
> [@AncientHumanoid](#): > > Alderaan? > > I guess if we allow time travel… > > Or is there some newer canon that gives her another “home world?” Just wondering. Ah… The PREQUELS! Polis Massa :smack: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779.md?page=2)