# The future of Star Wars without Carrie Fisher **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 28, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779 "2016-12-28T16:05:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/41 "2017-01-06T03:13:14Z")
I was quite underwhelmed by the CGI Tarkin, the tech isn’t up to more than a brief flash, IMHO. I’d prefer a hologramed Leia if see doesn’t die nobly in viii. I’d ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/42 "2017-01-06T08:35:28Z")
I wonder if the plan was to have Han die in VII, Luke in VIII (like Yoda or Obi-Wan did), and Leia in IX, with her role being to defeat or otherwise solve the Kylo Ren\* situation with motherly affection. If so, they could maybe swap Luke with Leia in reshoots for VIII. It would be less prosaic, but not by a huge margin. I have no inside info, it’s purely my own speculation based on trilogy story structure. For all I know no other major characters are slated to die. \*_I read something recently that suggested he’s Ben Organa, due to the royal lineage, and not Ben Solo. I like that idea._ ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/43 "2017-01-06T09:59:43Z")
Unless they plan to make the same story over and over again or stick to the same time period the death of Fisher is irrelevant, as would be the death of Ford, Hamill, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/44 "2017-01-06T11:49:00Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It won’t be hard to have her die sorta on-screen – just have her on a spaceship, and the ship blows up. They could probably strategically mine the footage they already have to give her a poignant last moment on screen. I would like it to be heroic - have her ram her ship into an attacker as a last-ditch effort to save the fleet - sort of like Kirk’s father did in Abrams reboot of Star trek. Or some other self-sacrifical heroism - or better still, something that appears futile and pointless, and is only discoverd to have been heroic later on. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/45 "2017-01-06T12:27:28Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > Apparently, Leia was going to play a big role in episode 9. They will have to re-cast the role or write an entirely new story. > > [http://io9.gizmodo.com/princess-leia-was-going-to-play-a-large-role-in-star-wa-1790796565](http://io9.gizmodo.com/princess-leia-was-going-to-play-a-large-role-in-star-wa-1790796565) Pretty much saying the same thing: > **[Leia May Get Cut from Star Wars 8; New Scenes Leak Details](https://movieweb.com/star-wars-8-princess-leia-carrie-fisher-scenes-cut/)** > > General Leia Organa has two key scenes in Star Wars 8 and Star Wars 9, though the Lucasfilm braintrust is considering taking them out of the movie. They might cut scene(s) from VIII and put it in IX Redeeming Kylo Ren in IX would echo VI, but I’m hoping VIII and IX don’t retread V and VI (like VII retreaded IV ) (I actually like VII a lot and didn’t mind some retreading, but I think it went too far) Brian ---
**Author:** ![SciFiSam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/47e85d/32.png) [@SciFiSam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SciFiSam)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/46 "2017-01-06T17:05:24Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Unless they plan to make the same story over and over again or stick to the same time period the death of Fisher is irrelevant, as would be the death of Ford, Hamill, etc. The makers of the films don’t seem to agree with you. They have this odd opinion that writing out a major character is quite a big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/47 "2017-01-06T18:50:41Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > Unless they plan to make the same story over and over again… Seems like this is what they’ve been doing for quite a while now. Beat that dead horse till its nothin’ but dust. :rolleyes: Who needs an original, fresh idea? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/48 "2017-01-06T18:57:31Z")
I figure they’ll edit VIII so that Ren kills Leia as his ultimate dark side action, either that or that’s how they will start IX. Similar to the Han scene but maybe with more torture to really sell the evil. It would certainly make the movie that they do it in the darkest of them all but I’m not sure how they’d pull a redemption story out of killing your father and torturing your mother. Maybe discovering that he has a sister? ---
**Author:** ![TYphoonSignal8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@TYphoonSignal8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TYphoonSignal8)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/49 "2017-01-12T02:22:47Z")
I’d personally find a CGI-zombified Carrie Fisher tasteless and far too soon after her death. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/50 "2017-01-14T04:00:38Z")
> [@starwars.com](#): > > We don’t normally respond to fan or press speculation, but there is a rumor circulating that we would like to address. We want to assure our fans that Lucasfilm has no plans to digitally recreate Carrie Fisher’s performance as Princess or General Leia Organa. > > Carrie Fisher was, is, and always will be a part of the Lucasfilm family. She was our princess, our general, and more importantly, our friend. We are still hurting from her loss. We cherish her memory and legacy as Princess Leia, and will always strive to honor everything she gave to Star Wars. Movieweb repeats what I have heard (either there or elsewhere). The 2 big scenes with Leia are (spoiling even though I think it is rumor) her reunion with Luke, and her confronting Kylo Ren [http://movieweb.com/star-wars-9-carrie-fisher-no-digital-cg-leia/](http://movieweb.com/star-wars-9-carrie-fisher-no-digital-cg-leia/) Brian ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/51 "2017-01-14T09:04:24Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Note that Ingvild Deila (who’s 29) was playing a young Leia. If they wanted to use her for old Leia, too, they’d need to age her (digitally or using makeup). Though of course, they could also just use an older actress. It’s probably not too hard for a Hollywood studio to find an actor who looks like any particular given person. How about Meryl Streep? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/52 "2017-01-14T10:10:47Z")
Lucasfilm has officially stated that there are no plans to digitally recreate Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia or General Organa. > **[A Statement Regarding New Rumors](https://www.starwars.com/news/a-statement-regarding-new-rumors)** ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/53 "2017-01-14T10:52:30Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > Lucasfilm has officially stated that there are no plans to digitally recreate Carrie Fisher as Princess Leia or General Organa. > > [http://www.starwars.com/news/a-statement-regarding-new-rumors](http://www.starwars.com/news/a-statement-regarding-new-rumors) That’s the same thing **N9IWP** quoted in post #50. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/54 "2017-01-14T11:26:05Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > That’s the same thing **N9IWP** quoted in post #50. So it is. Of course, I gave the actual source link. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2017, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779/55 "2017-01-14T12:39:30Z")
I meant to post the link to the official announcement (though the link I posted DID have a link) Cynics may state that they didn’t say “We will never CGI Leia”, just that there are no current plans. Brian [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-future-of-star-wars-without-carrie-fisher/775779.md?page=2)