# The G-Spot. And We Thought JDT Was The Only One To Rub It Right! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 17, 2000, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624 "2000-11-17T17:57:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/1 "2000-11-17T17:57:14Z")
In [this article](http://www.healthcentral.com/news/newsfulltext.cfm?ID=44499&src=n1) it said the following: > [@](#): > > Some animal research suggested the G spot has a pain-dulling effect, which suggests it has a role beyond pleasure. Since I have never experienced childbirth, I don’t know. How about it ladies. Any opinions? ---
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/2 "2000-11-17T19:56:48Z")
Um, I may not be very good at this sex thing (yeah, I know, I’m a compulsive liar), but don’t you actually have to get your penis _into_ the woman to rub the G-spot? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Kyberneticist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dc4da7/32.png) [@Kyberneticist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyberneticist)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/3 "2000-11-17T20:26:56Z")
No. Maybe your fingers aren’t long enough? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/4 "2000-11-17T21:00:50Z")
No, no, no. I know where it is and how to find it. (I do my utmost best anyway.) I just found the theory a very interesting one. Namely that the G-spot wasn’t just for pleasure, but was important in allowing a woman to make it through childbirth. Namely, this quote: > [@](#): > > “We hypothesize that childbirth would be much more uncomfortable without the G spot.” That’s more or less what I’m asking your opinion on. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Dean\_Tyler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@Jack\_Dean\_Tyler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Dean_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/5 "2000-11-17T21:26:00Z")
A friend of mine I was talking to a physician, I think he was from India, and he said that children in America are delivered all wrong. He said that women all over the world deliver babies while squatting so that gravity will help out. I thin that the squatting position may allow the baby to push on the G-spot more effectively. Also, some research that I read some time ago said that the use of forceps during birth can increase the likelihood that the baby will die from SIDS. I would not think that forceps would be necessary for a squatting delivery. ---
**Author:** ![PolarField](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@PolarField](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PolarField)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/6 "2000-11-17T22:22:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jack Dean Tyler \* > \*\* Also, some research that I read some time ago said that the use of forceps during birth can increase the likelihood that the baby will die from SIDS. I would not think that forceps would be necessary for a squatting delivery. > \*\* At first I thought you meant Simian Immune Deficiency Syndrome. The monkey version of aids. There I am going “Why the hell would that be a consideration?!” ---
**Author:** ![rackensack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@rackensack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rackensack)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/7 "2000-11-17T22:39:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jesuslynch \* > \*\*No, no, no. I know where it is and how to find it. (I do my utmost best anyway.) \*\* Yet another instance of the value of a quality liberal arts education. ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/8 "2000-11-17T22:50:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jesuslynch \* > \*\*No, no, no. I know where it is and how to find it. (I do my utmost best anyway.) I just found the theory a very interesting one. Namely that the G-spot wasn’t just for pleasure, but was important in allowing a woman to make it through childbirth. Namely, this quote: > > > [@](#): > > > > “We hypothesize that childbirth would be much more uncomfortable without the G spot.” > > That’s more or less what I’m asking your opinion on. \*\* I read an article about this yesterday - I deleted it though. I had a couple of reservations about the research - the thing about Hispanic women yelling more in labour because the capsaicin in chili peppers makes the G spot ineffective struck me as an incredible stretch. For that matter, how did she figure that it was definitely the chili peppers which rendered the G spot ineffective? And JDT? Got a CITE for that opinion about forceps increasing the SIDS rate? Just for your information, forceps would be totally impossible to use with the woman in a squatting position. ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/9 "2000-11-17T22:59:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Primaflora \* > And JDT? Got a CITE for that opinion about forceps increasing the SIDS rate? Just for your information, forceps would be totally impossible to use with the woman in a squatting position. I hope this doesn’t spoil your fun… [http://www.4icpa.org/research/sids.htm](http://www.4icpa.org/research/sids.htm) I couldn’t get the abstract of the article it refers to through PubMed, though. ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/10 "2000-11-17T23:20:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ENugent \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Primaflora \* > > And JDT? Got a CITE for that opinion about forceps increasing the SIDS rate? Just for your information, forceps would be totally impossible to use with the woman in a squatting position. > > I hope this doesn’t spoil your fun… > [http://www.4icpa.org/research/sids.htm](http://www.4icpa.org/research/sids.htm) > > I couldn’t get the abstract of the article it refers to through PubMed, though. \*\* No it didn’t spoil my fun… I am still trying to imagine a doctor using forceps on a squatting woman. And the point remains that yet again, JDT has not provided a cite ---
**Author:** ![tisiphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tisiphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tisiphone)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2000, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/11 "2000-11-17T23:41:24Z")
I have two children, one delivered with drugs (yay Demerol!) and one delivered without (boo, ssss, but the endorphins after are SOMETHING!). I love them, but I will never have another. By choice. I don’t recall the G-spot being involved in any way past what got me pregnant in the first place. If it had been, I would probably have a dozen kids. I assure you, the reason women make it through childbirth is that the alternative is unthinkable. Hhhmmmmhhh. How would you test this, anyways? Any methods I can think of involve removal of the birth canal, which means that normal vaginal delivery wouldn’t be an option anyway. Not to mention that it’s an awfully drastic way of answering the question. And yes, until relatively recently, childbirth in the West was all wrong, but not entirely for the reasons JDT says. The squatting position actually allows us to throw more of our muscles into assisting the process without serious damage, and gravity does help. Consider your position on the toilet when nastily constipated . . . The use of forceps during delivery increases the likelihood of brain and/or spinal damage. It also contributed to some skull and facial deformities. SIDS is something else. We don’t seem to be entirely sure what it is yet, but it’s something else. Does that help? Tisiphone ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Dean\_Tyler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/46a35a/32.png) [@Jack\_Dean\_Tyler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Dean_Tyler)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/12 "2000-11-18T00:07:52Z")
\> Just for your information, forceps would be totally impossible to use with the woman in a squatting position. \< ``` Yeah, I knew you were going to say that. I was torn, should I go ahead and make a statement that forceps can't be used in the squatting position? But, if I do, then we would have had at least five posts demanding to know where I was trained as a midwife. So, just to avoid all of that, I didn't make even obvious assumptions. I, shamefully, forgot to mention what is probably the most important thing, episiotomy. Often, it is said that circumcision is the most common surgery performed in America. It's not. Episiotomy is. This is another way that the medical establishment makes money by unnecessary sexual mutilation. An episiotomy not only cuts the skin, it cuts the muscle too. If you don't have an episiotomy, only your skin MIGHT (but probably won't) tear. Protect your baby and yourself from sexual mutilation. ``` ---
**Author:** ![ENugent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/4af34b/32.png) [@ENugent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ENugent)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/13 "2000-11-18T00:13:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jack Dean Tyler \* > I, shamefully, forgot to mention what is probably the most important thing, episiotomy. Often, it is said that circumcision is the most common surgery performed in America. It’s not. Episiotomy is. This is another way that the medical establishment makes money by unnecessary sexual mutilation. An episiotomy not only cuts the skin, it cuts the muscle too. If you don’t have an episiotomy, only your skin MIGHT (but probably won’t) tear. Protect your baby and yourself from sexual mutilation. Actually, muscle can also tear during birth without an episiotomy. Most proponents of the procedure point out that muscles heal much more cleanly and with less scar tissue after a straight cut than they do after a tear. I personally have not made a decision on this one yet (I have no children, but plan to in the future). My husband and I have already decided against circumcision (well before you came on the scene, Jack - don’t get excited). But an episiotomy does seem to have real positive value in some cases. The trick is figuring out whether or not I’m one of those cases. (By the way, Jack, I didn’t think you were asserting that forceps could be used in a squatting delivery). ---
**Author:** ![tisiphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tisiphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tisiphone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/14 "2000-11-18T00:48:01Z")
Wish I’d had an episiotomy with my youngest. When one’s entire labour is 4 hours, there’s not enough time for the tissue to stretch enough. > [@](#): > > Originally posted by Jack Dean Tyler > An episiotomy not only cuts the skin, it cuts the muscle too. If you don’t have an episiotomy, only > your skin MIGHT (but probably won’t) tear. Oh really. If I’d had one, it would’ve been a small cut as opposed to a tear I don’t even wanna think about anymore. It wasn’t just the skin. Owie. And this is the child I had without the assistance of any sort of painkillers. I will spare everyone any further graphic descriptions. However, I managed to entirely avoid the “72 hours of agony” types of labour. \I got off disgustingly easy and even had babies that slept through the night when they were six weeks old.\ Really. I have proof. Oh, waitaminnit - anecdotal evidence does not constitute proof. Never mind. Tisiphone ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/15 "2000-11-18T05:02:58Z")
I don’t have much to add, except to say that the G-spot is the greatest. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/16 "2000-11-18T05:23:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\*I don’t have much to add, except to say that the G-spot is the greatest. > 🙂 \*\* Showoff! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lolagranola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ea5d25/32.png) [@lolagranola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lolagranola)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/17 "2000-11-18T13:12:22Z")
\*Originally posted by ENugent \* > [@](#): > > The trick is figuring out whether or not I’m one of those cases.\*\* The trick is actually to find a Dr. that is a little reluctant to do one, but will do one if necessary. With my first baby, the Dr. was actually a little too reluctant to give me one. The baby was stuck for half an hour before he finally looked at me, and with a solemn tone told me that he was afraid I would need an episiotomy. As soon as he did it, the baby was out. Sheesh. All that time and that’s all I needed. I wish he would have done it earlier. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/18 "2000-11-18T13:23:52Z")
Yes, the G-Spot _is_ the greatest. I may not know what it’s like to _have_ one, but I can attest to its effect on women when it’s properly stimulated. It’s a powerful force for good. 😃 Funny thing - in my [very first thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=85) on this board, I took a bit of grief for claiming, as a male, to actually know something about whether the G-Spot was real. Glad to see there’s less doubt of its existence in this thread. Concerning the advantages of women delivering babies in a squatting position: once again, as a male, I have zero, zip, nada firsthand experience. But there is a method of delivering babies, the **Bradley method** , that’s built around this idea. My wife’s best friend decided to go with this method in both her pregnancies, and she had two of the shortest and absurdly easiest deliveries I’ve ever heard of. Mind you, a sample of size two is far from definitive. But my wife’s friend tried the method because she’d heard similarly good things about it from others who’d gone that route, so there is a larger sample out there somewhere. I’m not saying this is the way to go, but if I were a woman who was going to have a baby, I’d sure want to at least look into it. ---
**Author:** ![robinh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@robinh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robinh)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/19 "2000-11-18T19:00:17Z")
**almost Bradley teacher chiming in** While the Bradley Method will teach you how to squat; (and encourages you to practice daily, as it lengthens and strengthens the leg muscles) it will not insist that you actually deliver in that position. If you take a Bradley course, you will learn relaxation techniques that will help you to get through your labor without drugs and you will learn a great number of positions that you can use during labor and delivery to make yourself most comfortable. Different people will find different positions suit them best, and indeed, most women will change positions throughout the process. Most American women (and women from other cultures who do not otherwise squat on a regular basis) will find squatting uncomfortable and difficult if they do not practice ahead of time. With practice, though, it is a simple and natural position. It is also much kinder to your back. Since I learned how (while practicing during my first pregnancy) it has become my most common method of reaching down to tie shoelaces and that sort of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Whammo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8dc957/32.png) [@Whammo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whammo)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2000, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624/20 "2000-11-18T19:55:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jesuslynch \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > Some _animal research_ suggested the G spot has a pain-dulling effect, which suggests it has a role beyond pleasure. > > \*\* I think you all are missing something here. THERE ARE PEOPLE BEING PAID TO DIDDLE THE G SPOTS OF ANIMALS!! That is all I have to add. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-g-spot-and-we-thought-jdt-was-the-only-one-to-rub-it-right/41624.md?page=2)