# the gall of some people! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 30, 2002, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486 "2002-07-30T04:25:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/21 "2002-07-30T15:05:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by cjhoworth \* > \*\*[hijack] > By the way, I’m sort of intrigued about how we’ve got one set of people condemning Sivalensis basing his attractiveness based on his looks, and another group of people quite eager to get a better idea of hers. \*\* Actually, it seems to me that it was **HotVespaMama’s** comments that were being criticized (“I will NEVER understand why ugly men think they can talk to me”). She sounds like an annoying and self-centered 15 year old. As to the male/female split, I’m a 28 year old guy and I have no problem with **Sivalensis** being irked at the guy in the bank. She didn’t even mentioned what the guy looked like until after relating what he said. His opening line was “so how old are you, 16 or 18?”, and then he asked for a date. Kinda creepy. And **gobear** , your pessimism is showing. One of my friends is by most acounts far less attractive than me. However, his innate charm and confidence will make him more of a hit with women. Unless someone is toothless-with-a-giant-boil-on-the-neck ugly, how he presents himself is more important. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/22 "2002-07-30T15:22:56Z")
> [@](#): > > And gobear, your pessimism is showing. One of my friends is by most acounts far less attractive than me. However, his innate charm and confidence will make him more of a hit with women. Unless someone is toothless-with-a-giant-boil-on-the-neck ugly, how he presents himself is more important. Apparently, you missed the paragraph which reads: > [@](#): > > …If you have great abs and a dimpled chin, the world will want to get to know you. \*\*Ugly, old, fat people have to compensate for their physical shortcomings with good behavior and a sparkling personality. \*\* That your friend has innate charm and confidence to make up for his lack of looks only bears out my point. I would point out that “ugly” is a highly subjective concept. One guy’s hottie is another guy’s troll. When my BF and I go out, we’ll often nudge each other and whisper to get a look at some hot guy. Usually, we agree on the degrees of hotness, but often he will find a man attractive that I find gross, and vice versa. (The BF drools over anything in a goatee, while I tend to like muscular, older men with a bit of a stomach.) Moreover, with the wide net of the Internet, one is likely to find a kindred spirit, no matter how nasty one’s kink might be. For all I know, there may well be toothless-guy-with-a-giant-boil-on-the-neck fetishist Web sites out there. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/23 "2002-07-30T16:05:47Z")
hmmm…is it possible that this most hideous of human beings was asking your age because he didn’t WANT to be hitting on an underage girl? You know…benefit of the doubt, not everyone’s a lecher sort of thing? ---
**Author:** ![CRorex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CRorex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CRorex)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/24 "2002-07-30T16:41:01Z")
Hrrm I just have a hard time hitting on someone unless I’ve known them for a while. … Yes that does go a long way to explain things. ---
**Author:** ![Stephi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@Stephi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephi)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/25 "2002-07-30T16:43:31Z")
Whenever this kind of thing happens to me, the more annoying part of it isn’t that there’s an older man hitting on me; it’s the fact they can’t take the hint and go away. If I’m giving you one word answers and not making eye contect, I’m not interested, ok? Actually, it’s not just older men, some younger men do it too. (Younger being, for me, 25-30ish) I don’t know why I’m always so damn polite in these situations. Sometimes I just wish I could yell at them, “NO, I’M NOT INTERESTED! TAKE THE BLOODY HINT!” Ahem, but that would be rude. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/26 "2002-07-30T17:05:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*For all I know, there may well be toothless-guy-with-a-giant-boil-on-the-neck fetishist Web sites out there. \*\* Thank g-d… there’s still hope for me. 😛 > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Stephi_ > \*\*Sometimes I just wish I could yell at them, “NO, I’M NOT INTERESTED! TAKE THE BLOODY HINT!” \*\* Sometimes you have to… some of us are just clueless as far as subtlety and body-language go. You might wanna give it a try the next time someone isn’t taking the hint. Something along the lines of, “I’m sorry… I’m not interested in talking to you.” You’d be suprised how far being straight-forward and blunt sometimes will get you. Especially with people denser than a sack of wet kittens. ---
**Author:** ![Simetra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Simetra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simetra)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/27 "2002-07-30T17:17:00Z")
Oh… and also. This right here: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by HotVespaMama \* > \*\*GROSS > its too bad chivalry is dead. > I willl NEVER understand why ugly men think they can talk to me. > I mean, do they have that much confidence in themselves that > they think a beautiful woman is going to say… yes… press > your smelly mouth against mine , run your sausage fingers through > my hair… oh i love it so much… > GROSS > Men need to check themselves before they wreck themselves. > > p.s.Casey Affleck is sooooooooooo HOT \*\* This makes the LCD in my brain light up and say **CONSTRAINT ERROR - Bitch overflow at line 2.**. Nothing about anything you said had anything to do with someone being chivalrous. Also, it’s one thing to not be attracted to someone and to tell them so. And yet, quite another to discredit all these “ugly men” as being somehow less than you. So much so that they shouldn’t even be allowed to approach you. The difference is you being a troglodytic bitch. I’m afraid I’m gonna have to go old school on you and ask you to simply go felch rancid tuna salad out of a goat. ---
**Author:** ![monica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a183cd/32.png) [@monica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monica)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2002, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/28 "2002-07-30T18:43:48Z")
I’m fifteen, and I get really creeped out when old guys hit on me. I mean, I’ve been told I look older, but definately not enough to be legal. It just doesnt seem right that someone that much older than me would hit on me. When I was in Greece, I wanted to get a souvenir tee-shirt. I walked into a store to look for one. There was a 60-some-year-old guy talking on the phone. He put his hand over the reciever, said “Look around slowly, I’ll be with you in a minute” and BLEW ME A KISS! There was at least a 45 year age gap! Needless to say, I exited that store as fast as possible. ---
**Author:** ![Sivalensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Sivalensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sivalensis)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/29 "2002-07-31T01:01:31Z")
\*\*jarbabyj[b/], i did consider that thought…and if that’s the case than maybe his creephood level drops a bit, but he was still trying to pick me up when a) i’d made it quite clear that i am involved with someone b) i’d made it quite clear (i think) that i wasn’t really interested in the conversation that being said, i’m just not good at being rude to people, and i tend to smile a lot and am not good at being impatient. but i was doing my damndest to bury my nose in that book, let me tell you! i figure, if you’re going to hit on people, in a public place where they can’t just walk away (since i’d already invested a good ten minutes in line), at least have the decency to wash, use deoderant, and brush your teeth regularly. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/30 "2002-07-31T04:18:11Z")
USE THE GOD-DAMNED SHIFT KEY! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/31 "2002-07-31T05:42:15Z")
> [@](#): > > I willl NEVER understand why ugly men think they can talk to me. > I mean, do they have that much confidence in themselves that > they think a beautiful woman is going to say… Sounds like they’re giving you the benefit of the doubt, and are assuming you aren’t hopelessly shallow. Sounds like they’d be wrong, too. ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/32 "2002-07-31T13:42:45Z")
See, I always err on the side of caution, by never hitting on anybody. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486/33 "2002-07-31T14:56:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > **OTOH, a middle-aged, yet muscular and hairy-chested leather daddy can get all the action he wants.** Whenever **gobear** starts talking about sexy older gay men, he makes me think of Dad. Thanks! 😉 [sub]Once, this might have scared me, but no longer… thanks to the Dope![/sub] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gall-of-some-people/121486.md?page=1)