# The Galveston City Government: What Fuckups!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 13, 2008, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438 "2008-09-13T14:38:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/21 "2008-09-13T18:17:51Z")
> [@autz](#): > > Forcing people to leave is illegal. > > People are allowed to be stupid. Fine, as long as not ONE PENNY of my tax dollars goes to rescue them once they realize the Gulf of Mexico is knocking on the door and it has its suitcases and intends to stay in your guest bedroom. If the Coast Guard goes in after them they better get presented with a bill and a shark lawyer to get every stinking penny. And if one of those responders _dies_ to save their dumb asses… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/22 "2008-09-13T18:38:18Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > So who did we hear this from? Random people on the Internet? Or from someone with cred among Democrats? Does Nagin have Cred as the mayor? Kanye West (he’s just kind of a dip, but still during a fundraiser?) Al Gore? > [@](#): > > You can always find _someone_ who will say _any_ random shit. By this standard, the idea that the Dems might ever be acting unfairly is laughable, because look what **Scylla** and **Shodan** and **Starving Artist** say on the Dope. The bombing of the levys was pretty much random assholes. The Bush not caring about Black people was pretty mainstream, so is the Bush global warming supercharging hurricane meme. Please stop acting like an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/23 "2008-09-13T19:16:28Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Does Nagin have Cred as the mayor? Kanye West (he’s just kind of a dip, but still during a fundraiser?) Al Gore? As far as the “Bush doesn’t care about black people” stuff, I’d say (a) black people are in the best position to judge, and (b) when the GOP stops targeting voter-suppression efforts at blacks, I’ll start believing that Republicans actually care about black people. As far as “Bush caused the hurricane,” if you claim that Al Gore said words to that effect, please do the quote-and-linky thing. > [@](#): > > Please stop acting like an asshole. :snork: ---
**Author:** ![Brunhilda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cdc98d/32.png) [@Brunhilda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brunhilda)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/24 "2008-09-13T20:53:54Z")
I think that they should mandate children under the age of 18 getting evacuated. Just ridiculous to allow parents to expose them to this. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/25 "2008-09-13T21:07:52Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > As far as the “Bush doesn’t care about black people” stuff, I’d say (a) black people are in the best position to judge, …Because black people can read minds? ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/26 "2008-09-13T21:10:50Z")
> [@Brunhilda](#): > > I think that they should mandate children under the age of 18 getting evacuated. Just ridiculous to allow parents to expose them to this. And eat their vegetables too. And go to church. Oh wait. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/27 "2008-09-13T21:21:06Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > …Because black people can read minds? Some are easier to read than others. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/28 "2008-09-13T21:21:57Z")
Isn’t Ike Sarah Palin’s fault? Surely, such luminaries as yourselves can concoct a reason why it would be. Let’s hear it. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/29 "2008-09-13T21:27:38Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > …Because black people can read minds? No, because faith without works is dead. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/30 "2008-09-13T21:29:57Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Isn’t Ike Sarah Palin’s fault? Surely, such luminaries as yourselves can concoct a reason why it would be. Let’s hear it. Sarah Palin has no faults, and to imply otherwise is sexist. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/31 "2008-09-13T21:34:25Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Sarah Palin has no faults, and to imply otherwise is sexist. Rather like how critcizing Barry Hussein Obama is racist. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/32 "2008-09-13T21:40:55Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I think the Galveston City Gov. is acting poorly, too. They did say people who stay face certain death, so I don’t fault them for not warning. I fault them for not making the evacuation mandatory. Get the Nat’l Guard, go door to door and **make** them leave. Put them on buses at gunpoint if you have to. What, you gonna shoot 'em if they won’t leave? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/33 "2008-09-13T21:45:00Z")
Scylla! RTFirefly! Get a room! Seriously, I never notice around here anything and even I’ve been noticing you two going back and forth all over the boards lately, what the hell is going on? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2008, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/34 "2008-09-13T21:45:49Z")
[never mind, **Squink** said it better] ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/35 "2008-09-14T03:22:06Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > No, because faith without works is dead. It’s an asinine implication. The two black people who have held the highest positions in Government both did so as appointees of Bush. There is absolutely no evidence to support the idea that Bush is prejudiced or doesn’t care about black people. There is evidence to the contrary. Asinine and irresponsible, and y’all are so upset that Obama was portrayed unfairly vis a vis chldren and sex educatation. Pure hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/36 "2008-09-14T03:49:31Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > The two black people… Last I checked, there were more than two black people living in the united states. What’s Bush done to benefit the rest of them? Please don’t say “Invaded Iraq.” ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/37 "2008-09-14T03:51:28Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > It’s an asinine implication. The two black people who have held the highest positions in Government both did so as appointees of Bush. > > There is absolutely no evidence to support the idea that Bush is prejudiced or doesn’t care about black people. There is evidence to the contrary. > > Asinine and irresponsible, and y’all are so upset that Obama was portrayed unfairly vis a vis chldren and sex educatation. > > Pure hypocrisy. [chirp]Notice the crickets. [/chirp] ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/38 "2008-09-14T04:04:11Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > [chirp]Notice the crickets. [/chirp] notice the stupid, late post by **Carol Stream** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/39 "2008-09-14T04:34:01Z")
To go back to the government … I don’t care what party they were. They did _not_ handle this well… very lucky that the storm shifted over at the last minute. If Galveston had gotten what Bolivar Peninsula did, we’d be looking at a lot worse situation. To paraphrase someone from this afternoon, residents did not know the surge would be cutting them off (roads inundated) by Friday morning. News in the area didn’t report that; they were emphasizing the winds, that it was going to be Cat 1 or 2. The surge was not emphasized. Somewhere between the local government, the NHC and the news media the word has to get out … my opinion is that the Mayor was in disbelief and downplayed it. She wanted everything to be OK - tough call but she got it wrong. Again, they knew it was coming, and they knew that most coastal communities can hold up pretty good to a normal Cat 1 or 2. They did not know that the roads would be cut off and the winds would be up to 40mph 14 hours before the storm. It was a mis-step for the Galveston Mayor to pooh-pooh the “certain death for those who stay”…Comment made T -24hrs. And for KHOU to be spending most of early Friday AM talking about it weakening and may just be a Cat 1. Comments made T -24hrs. And for the Galveston mayor to blame the shifting track as to why she did not order mandatory evacuation earlier than she did. Comment made T -36. The icing on the cake is leaving 1000+ prisoners to drown in cells in the jail. That is inhumane. **Clovernook** , I hear Clear Lake was mostly OK, hope things are alright for you. ---
**Author:** ![frankzafka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@frankzafka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/frankzafka)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2008, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-galveston-city-government-what-fuckups/463438/40 "2008-09-14T05:06:49Z")
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