# The Gender of Political Correctness. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 20, 2016, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719 "2016-01-20T23:13:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/41 "2016-01-21T20:09:32Z")
There is an element of condescension in some of the male acceptance of the double standard. Its a very “aww, isn’t that cute. Well, we’ll let them feel like they won that one. It’ll be good for their confidence” Of course life isn’t fair. Ask any black man trying to get a job or Asian kid trying to get into college or white woman trying to get a promotion into a managerial position. But white men have a burden to bear as well. If you are a white man, you are left with the impression that the game of life was your to lose and somehow you lost. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/42 "2016-01-21T20:18:52Z")
Sexism and racism, in speech and policy, are fine if the targets belong to the “patriarchy.” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/43 "2016-01-21T22:13:28Z")
> [@sleestak](#): > > Salon as a factual cite? As the source of an argument. A very persuasive one, in this case, based on some essential but little-known facts cited therein, and sourced therein, and quoted in my post. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/44 "2016-01-21T22:15:44Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Sexism and racism, in speech and policy, are fine if the targets belong to the “patriarchy.” :rolleyes: [Anti-racist = anti-white,](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-racism_is_a_codeword_for_anti-white) eh? ---
**Author:** ![gytalf2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ac91a4/32.png) [@gytalf2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gytalf2000)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/45 "2016-01-21T22:27:08Z")
> [@Kearsen](#): > > Shouldn’t the equal treatment of everyone be applied to all? > > We teach our kids to not tear down others to prop yourself (or another group) up but when topics like this one come up we have the defenders of the people tearing others down. > > I really don’t see it. You should aspire to treat every one equally regardless of what historical advantages one got in the past. Raise the other group up. You don’t need to tear down someone else. Very good point! ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/46 "2016-01-21T22:41:29Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :rolleyes: [Anti-racist = anti-white,](http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-racism_is_a_codeword_for_anti-white) eh? If you are fine with double standards and hypocrisy because it advances a political advantage that’s on you. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/47 "2016-01-21T22:46:35Z")
> [@teflon\_grut](#): > > As a man, it does register with me that men are starting to be portrayed in a negative light. I do see a general trend towards men being represented as naive, unaware, not good parents, etc. There are a lot of unfair biases against men in the media. I think this mostly has to do with the iconoclastic nature of humor. It is generally more funny for the underdog to overcome the person in power that the other way around. A peasant showing his superiority over a king is high humor. A king showing his superiority over a peasant is at best boring and at worst bullying. Is it entirely fair to men that humor tends to be at our expense? No. But its just the price we have to pay for being in an otherwise dominant position. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/48 "2016-01-21T22:53:14Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I think this mostly has to do with the iconoclastic nature of humor. It is generally more funny for the underdog to overcome the person in power that the other way around. A peasant showing his superiority over a king is high humor. A king showing his superiority over a peasant is at best boring and at worst bullying. Is it entirely fair to men that humor tends to be at our expense? No. But its just the price we have to pay for being in an otherwise dominant position. /\ profound ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/49 "2016-01-21T23:25:39Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > But women also have a laundry list of such advantages over men. Don’t they? Anyone genuinely interested in learning should look up the following: – Discrimination against men in divorce – Men getting 63% higher sentence for the same crime – Very severe discrimination against [male victims of Domestic Violence](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12061547/How-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse-often-end-up-getting-arrested-themselves.html) In the Internet Age any information can be found. ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/50 "2016-01-21T23:29:11Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > CCitizen, write a well thought out paper and post it if you want a discussion of your views. > > Video takes too long to listen to compared to reading, and is linear, rather than permitting one to easily review and move about. > > Beyond this, your garbled audio over a static video bibliography is, to put it politely . . . well it is so very bad that there is no polite expression. For example, watching a bibliography is a waste of time. if you put forward a men’s rights bibliography, I can put forward a feminist bibliography, which really accomplishes nothing as far as a message board discussion goes. Thank you. My presentation skills need lots of work on them. Some YouTube videos get millions of views, but I must learn much more. Soon I will buy books on how to make good presentations. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/51 "2016-01-21T23:56:54Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > I think this mostly has to do with the iconoclastic nature of humor. It is generally more funny for the underdog to overcome the person in power that the other way around. A peasant showing his superiority over a king is high humor. A king showing his superiority over a peasant is at best boring and at worst bullying. Is it entirely fair to men that humor tends to be at our expense? No. But its just the price we have to pay for being in an otherwise dominant position. There’s a bit of that, along with a tendency (in American humor, anyway) for the starring role to be a clown or buffoon. Compare a show like _Home Improvement_ with _I Love Lucy_; the lead character always getting into ridiculous situation and surrounded by reasonable, long-suffering friends and family. So, is Lucy Ricardo a positive or negative for women? As a character she’s a terrible role model, but Lucille Ball was also the star and driving force behind the show. I think you can cherry pick the evidence for either side of the debate. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/52 "2016-01-22T01:03:57Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > Anyone genuinely interested in learning should look up the following: > > – Discrimination against men in divorce > > – Men getting 63% higher sentence for the same crime > > – Very severe discrimination against [male victims of Domestic Violence](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12061547/How-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse-often-end-up-getting-arrested-themselves.html) Without a doubt, these injustices do occur frequently enough that they ought not be ignored. So, what are we debating? ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/53 "2016-01-22T01:05:31Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > So, what are we debating? The fact that many people get all information from the Mainstream Media and take no time to search the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/54 "2016-01-22T01:08:54Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > – Discrimination against men in divorce agree with you on this one > [@](#): > > – Men getting 63% higher sentence for the same crime cite please, or, at least give some examples ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/55 "2016-01-22T01:10:20Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > – Very severe discrimination against [male victims of Domestic Violence](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/12061547/How-male-victims-of-domestic-abuse-often-end-up-getting-arrested-themselves.html) yeah, that needs to be corrected ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/56 "2016-01-22T01:10:58Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > cite please, or, at least give some examples For [Federal Courts](http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=law_econ_current). ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/57 "2016-01-22T01:11:28Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > The fact that many people get all information from the Mainstream Media and take no time to search the Internet. Majority of stuff on the internet is noise generated by the “mainstream media”, click-bait, and porn. So I’m not sure why you think people are more likely to get ‘good’ information by Googling. Some will. Most won’t or don’t know how to tell the difference between fact and someone’s blogged opinion. ---
**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/58 "2016-01-22T01:12:00Z")
> [@Robert163](#): > > yeah, that needs to be corrected Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/59 "2016-01-22T01:12:48Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Without a doubt, these injustices do occur frequently enough that they ought not be ignored. > > So, what are we debating? > [@CCitizen](#): > > The fact that many people get all information from the Mainstream Media and take no time to search the Internet. > [@Robert163](#): > > agree with you on this one > cite please, or, at least give some examples > [@Robert163](#): > > yeah, that needs to be corrected No, we agree these are happening. The issues is not that we are victims of a biased media. The issue is that for every claim of discrimination against men, you can find 10 that women have to put up with. No one is claiming men don’t face - any - discrimination. ---
**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719/60 "2016-01-22T01:14:14Z")
> [@CCitizen](#): > > For [Federal Courts](http://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=law_econ_current). I don’t feel like reading 30 pages The source looks reliable What examples are you talking about? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-gender-of-political-correctness/743719.md?page=4)