# The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo Remake **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 4, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325 "2011-06-04T19:03:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/41 "2011-07-24T23:32:28Z")
> [@JoelUpchurch](#): > > I don’t envy Rooney Mara. Every review is going to compare her to Noomi Rapace and I doubt that many will compare her favorably. She might do okay in the box office, since most people won’t have seen the original movie. This sounds a bit harsh, but I don’t mean it that way. Having only seen the trailers of both, I will say I find Rooney Mara’s version much more believable as a woman with serious body image issues. Both are certainly attractive women, but Mara’s version just looks more self-loathing. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/42 "2011-07-26T21:31:00Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > I really hope they don’t, because there was nothing there. The whole ‘incident’ takes up a paragraph and has nothing to do with the rest of the story except maybe to show Lizbet can still be somewhat intimate even after what would have been a debilitating experience for someone else. I thought the Swedish version was perfectly brief. The books run together in my head so I forget if this was in the first book or not, but Lucy is the girl that Lisbeth has a relationship with right? With the whole apartment thing? If so, she figures strongly in the later books, the 3rd one in particular IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/43 "2011-07-27T00:13:57Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > The books run together in my head so I forget if this was in the first book or not, but Lucy is the girl that Lisbeth has a relationship with right? With the whole apartment thing? If so, she figures strongly in the later books, the 3rd one in particular IIRC. Mimmi. No idea who Lucy is although I just reread the books last week. You need to cut characters and plot to get movies made - or movies would be four hours long and not be able to turn over the theater quick enough and make enough money. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/44 "2011-07-27T01:33:06Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Mimmi. No idea who Lucy is although I just reread the books last week. > > You need to cut characters and plot to get movies made - or movies would be four hours long and not be able to turn over the theater quick enough and make enough money. Ah right! OK then I have no idea who Lucy was. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/45 "2011-07-27T12:53:28Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > This sounds a bit harsh, but I don’t mean it that way. Having only seen the trailers of both, I will say I find Rooney Mara’s version much more believable as a woman with serious body image issues. > > Both are certainly attractive women, but Mara’s version just looks more self-loathing. Lisbeth doesn’t have serious body image issues. That’s a major point in the trial. If Mara is pulling off self loathing, she’s going to have a hard time making the third movie believable. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/46 "2011-07-27T14:00:52Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Lisbeth doesn’t have serious body image issues. That’s a major point in the trial. If Mara is pulling off self loathing, she’s going to have a hard time making the third movie believable. We need to be careful with spoilers here folks. I imagine some who haven’t read the books or seen the Swedish movies are going “Trial? What trial? Who’s on trial? For what?” and you’re just going to make them go crazy. Edit to add, but yes, Lisbeth does not have major body issues. She does have some, which get addressed, but there’s no real self-loathing involved. Maybe some people think that all women with piercings and tattoos and crazy hair and clothes loathe themselves. Some may, some may not. Lisbeth does not. She looks the way she looks for very specific reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/47 "2011-07-27T14:17:01Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > We need to be careful with spoilers here folks. I imagine some who haven’t read the books or seen the Swedish movies are going “Trial? What trial? Who’s on trial? For what?” and you’re just going to make them go crazy. > > Edit to add, but yes, Lisbeth does not have major body issues. She does have some, which get addressed, but there’s no real self-loathing involved. Maybe some people think that all women with piercings and tattoos and crazy hair and clothes loathe themselves. Some may, some may not. Lisbeth does not. She looks the way she looks for very specific reasons. Its a thread specifically about a remake of a movie from a book that has been on the best seller list for three years. Do we really need to be careful about spoilers? If they are interested in “what trial” and the hint is driving them crazy the books are available at the library and a bookstore near you. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/48 "2011-07-28T03:20:19Z")
Geez, at the very least put stuff like that in spoiler boxes. Not everyone has read the books, and not everyone has seen the Swedish movies. For millions of people, Fincher’s remake will be their first major exposure to the story. This thread is NOT about the original Swedish movie, and it’s NOT about the book. If it were I wouldn’t have said anything. It’s about the Remake, which comes out in December. Do you as a rule like to spoil for movies that won’t be released for months yet, just because it’s based on a book and maybe there was an earlier movie that few people (in America) saw? Worse, a movie that won’t be out for 3 years at least. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/49 "2011-07-28T03:49:57Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > Lisbeth doesn’t have serious body image issues. That’s a major point in the trial. If Mara is pulling off self loathing, she’s going to have a hard time making the third movie believable. In the first book, it’s stated that Lisbeth hates her appearance, dislikes her body, and doesn’t think others would or should find her attractive. I’ve only read the first book, so I have no trouble believing this changes as she evolves, but it’s definitely present at the start. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/50 "2011-07-28T05:33:56Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > In the first book, it’s stated that Lisbeth hates her appearance, dislikes her body, and doesn’t think others would or should find her attractive. > > I’ve only read the first book, so I have no trouble believing this changes as she evolves, but it’s definitely present at the start. I’ll have to re-read, I forgot about that. Fire and Hornet’s Nest are much more fresh in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/51 "2011-09-03T18:44:41Z")
I am sad. I ripped through the three books in the series, and was looking SO forward to more…only to learn that Larsson died in 2004. ☹ Which means…his work got more play poshumously than when he was alive? Or maybe that’s just the US version. Anyway, I want more. ☹ Looking forward to the US movie; hope they do all three. 🙂 (yes, I’ve watched the Swedish ones, just want to see what the US does with it) ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/52 "2011-09-04T02:29:09Z")
I just watched the Swedish version on Netflix (haven’t read any of the books), and it was a good film. However, it had one breakdown in logic that made me pause the film and stalk around my house cursing whatever idiot was responsible for it. The journalist/hero decides to break into the house of a crazy Nazi who he suspects shot him a few days earlier. The journalist is hoping to find clues about murders from 30 earlier – unarmed, in the dark, with the armed Nazi in the house. The Girl Star is simultaneously off researching evidence about whether the old Nazi was a legitimate suspect, and rather than wait for that evidence they apparently both agreed that he should break into the Nazi’s house. Oh, and the journalist is going to enter prison in a few months and really should not be pointlessly breaking into millionaire’s houses. And as long as I’m being cranky, isn’t playing the \*Immigrant Song \*(apparently 'cause the film takes place in Sweden) kinda superficial? ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/53 "2011-09-04T04:08:28Z")
> [@Taomist](#): > > I am sad. I ripped through the three books in the series, and was looking SO forward to more…only to learn that Larsson died in 2004. ☹ Which means…his work got more play poshumously than when he was alive? Or maybe that’s just the US version. They weren’t even published until after his death. From what I understand, he wrote them but never did anything with them and they were found after he died. ---
**Author:** ![Taomist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Taomist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taomist)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/54 "2011-09-05T03:36:29Z")
> [@interface2x](#): > > They weren’t even published until after his death. From what I understand, he wrote them but never did anything with them and they were found after he died. Well, damn. Feel like I want to find his grave and give him a thank you or something. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/55 "2012-02-23T01:13:18Z")
**BUMP** I just saw the movie today. Yeah, I’m late to the game. 1. I did find the mystery and the solving of the mystery hard to follow. It was clear this was a book with a lot of investigation and interviewing. 2. Stellan Skarsgard deserves a ton of credit. His scene where he has Daniel Craig tied up and he talks to him before trying to kill him was amazing. Great acting. 3. Overall, it was OK. I liked it, but it wasn’t great. I need to see it again before I can pass any kind of final judgement. I wasn’t super impressed, though. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/56 "2012-02-23T14:38:14Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > **BUMP** > > I just saw the movie today. Yeah, I’m late to the game. > > 1. I did find the mystery and the solving of the mystery hard to follow. It was clear this was a book with a lot of investigation and interviewing. > > 2. Stellan Skarsgard deserves a ton of credit. His scene where he has Daniel Craig tied up and he talks to him before trying to kill him was amazing. Great acting. > > 3. Overall, it was OK. I liked it, but it wasn’t great. I need to see it again before I can pass any kind of final judgement. I wasn’t super impressed, though. Are you going to get and read the books? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325/57 "2012-02-23T17:09:44Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Are you going to get and read the books? I’m not sure. I have kind of a queue of books to read and I haven’t really put those in the queue at this point. Did you like them? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo-remake/584325.md?page=2)