# The God of the Christian Trinity is Gay **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 4, 2003, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247 "2003-07-04T15:49:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MonkeyMensch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@MonkeyMensch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeyMensch)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/21 "2003-07-04T20:00:13Z")
Not to mention the virgin birth being confused with Immaculate Conception. Immaculate Conception only refers to Mary being without the horrible blot of Original Sin on her soul. God don’t I love a Catholic education… ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/22 "2003-07-04T20:00:47Z")
Well this is interesting, I don’t expect many to play along with me here, but if it is generally assumed that humans are made in the image of God, would that only be heterosexual humans and if so why? ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/23 "2003-07-04T20:06:05Z")
This reminds me of a conversation I had a long time ago, where we were discussing, “Which historical figure would you back in time to have sex with?” My choice was **Jesus Christ**. Nobody else could top that one. 😃 But, seriously…in the earliest days of the Jewish religion, they DID have two gods – a male one, and a female one. For some reason, they decided that monotheism was the way to go, and the female God was completely written out of the holy texts. We have archaeological evidence of this fact, though. Cite? Unfortunately, I don’t have one…my source is one of those “Ancient Mysteries” shows on A&E, or something similar. If I had time, I’d try and dig up a link, but I have to get offline right now for a phone call. Hopefully, someone else will be able to produce one. ---
**Author:** ![biqu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@biqu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/biqu)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/24 "2003-07-05T00:17:31Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Freyr_ > > All-knowing, All-powerful, All-loving bi-curious Deity seeks one night stand with a good Jewish girl. Must be **discrete**. (bolding mine) Is that “discrete” as opposed to “continuous” ? Methinks it should be “discreet”, meaning tactful or prudent. ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/25 "2003-07-05T00:28:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MonkeyMensch \* > **Not to mention the virgin birth being confused with Immaculate Conception.** Q. What’s the difference between the immaculate conception and the virgin birth? A. Nine months. (FTR that was a joke :D) (FTR so was that, and this 😃 :D) ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/26 "2003-07-05T00:52:03Z")
Who cares? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/27 "2003-07-05T02:11:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by amore ac studio \* > \*\*(bolding mine) > > Is that “discrete” as opposed to “continuous” ? > Methinks it should be “discreet”, meaning tactful or prudent. \*\* He may have meant “discrete” as spelkled. Being a Person in a Holy Trinity might make you want a girl who’s quite separate from any other entity! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/28 "2003-07-05T02:35:43Z")
Ok, you straight guys explain this one: Imagine you’re God, and you’re all alone in the universe except for some animals you made yesterday. You can make anything you want. So what do you create? A MAN??? And then you create a woman from spare parts, almost as an afterthought? And only a gay God would be known as the Grand Designer. And why do you think we have colors like mauve, taupe and ecru? And a straight God would have angels playing maybe tenor sax, not harps. And then there are the wings. Puh-leez! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/29 "2003-07-05T03:10:14Z")
I knew it. I predicted it. Sooner or later somebody was going to post a “God is a Homo” thread. I just knew it would happen. ---
**Author:** ![gouda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c77e96/32.png) [@gouda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gouda)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/30 "2003-07-05T08:20:27Z")
Heh! The OP wasn’t such a waste after all. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/31 "2003-07-05T10:20:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > \*\*God is, according to the Athanasian Creed, “without body, parts, or passions.” I’ll grant that for human beings, sex is an interesting subject – but any number of monerans and protists get along quite well without it. And, ignoring Patrick Swayze movies, ghosts seem quite disinterested in sex. > > Ergo, your proposition attributes a degree of anthropomorphism to God which is unlikely in the extreme. > > Now, arguments about Jesus in the flesh being gay (at least in orientation) might have a better time of it – though they would cause some horrified expressions of blasphemy! > > We’re not to make accusations of trolling here, and I have no intention of violating that rule. But for the life of me, I cannot see what function you intended the OP to have other than stirring up a hornet’s nest. So I would like an explanation of what it was that you did intend to explore in it? \*\* Still, there seems a very strongly held belief in the Christian God having a male gender. It’s one of the many things which threw the Bible from being the “true word” to a book written by men which reflected their prejudices and prevaling beliefs of the time. This isn’t in support of the theory of the OP, but… I guess a bit of counterpoint, as I still see the Christian God constantly referred to as Him in our culture. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/32 "2003-07-05T12:54:37Z")
Well, Jesus hung around with 12 guys, never married, and never said a word against gays… Not that there’s anything wrong with that (though Old Phred would have a field day with it). ---
**Author:** ![Freyr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/freyr/32/5763_2.png) [@Freyr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freyr)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/33 "2003-07-05T15:39:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Annie-Xmas \* > \*\*Well, Jesus hung around with 12 guys, never married, and never said a word against gays… > > Not that there’s anything wrong with that (though Old Phred would have a field day with it). \*\* C’mon **Annie-Xmas** , you know that ole Phred is much more interested in the Bible rather than Jesus! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/34 "2003-07-05T15:42:54Z")
This strains credulity. A number of the disciples were fishermen. A gay fisherman? Come now. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/35 "2003-07-05T15:51:26Z")
I heard that women and seamen don’t mix. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/36 "2003-07-05T15:59:47Z")
SDMB police? I want to swear out a warrant… ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/37 "2003-07-05T16:00:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Polycarp \* > \*\*Now, arguments about Jesus in the flesh being gay (at least in orientation) might have a better time of it – though they would cause some horrified expressions of blasphemy! > \*\* Which brings me to something I was hoping to ask, **Poly**. Ages ago, in another thread, you mentioned a line in the Bible that seemed to imply that Jesus was bisexual, at least in orientation. I was curious about that line, because I’ve mentioned it to other people but didn’t know where to find it. As regards the OP, what would it mean for the Christian God to be gay? I get the impression Christians usually imagine their God as having no sexual desires and no physical form (which raises the question of what it means for God to be “male”…). We’re not talking the very carnal dieties of the Greeks, here. The Christian God is usually described as rather abstract, more like one of Plato’s idea-forms than a person. ---
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/38 "2003-07-05T16:01:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Annie-Xmas \* > \*\*I heard that women and seamen don’t mix. \*\* We all know what you think! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ConnieS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9a140/32.png) [@ConnieS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ConnieS)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/39 "2003-07-05T17:13:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by KGS \* > **But, seriously…in the earliest days of the Jewish religion, they DID have two gods – a male one, and a female one. For some reason, they decided that monotheism was the way to go, and the female God was completely written out of the holy texts. We have archaeological evidence of this fact, though.** The issue here, AFAIK, wasn’t monotheism; that was already established. The Shekhina can act as a separate entity, but she’s a part of God–specifically, His manifestation in this world. [Cite.](http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/shekhina.html) The [Sabbath](http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/shabbat_hamalka.html) can also be seen as representative of the Shekhina. There’s distressingly little information on the Shekhina that I can find; if anyone else knows where I can find more, I’d appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2003, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247/40 "2003-07-05T17:48:03Z")
Of course the Judeo-Christian God is a flaming, prancing, screaming queerboy! You guys just now noticed this? Don’t you know your Old Testament? “The LORD is my shepherd.” And what do shepherds do with their sheep? “Thy rod and Thy staff, they comfort me . . .” And would a STRAIGHT God make us all so that we have to piss and fuck with the same organ? If He’s not queer, he definitely has a really dirty mind! As for Jesus, there are several references to “a certain disciple whom Jesus loved.” (No cite, can’t put my hands on a Bible right now.) And this was Jesus, right? Presumably he loved all his disciples, and all his enemies, and everybody else in the world. Why single out one disciple as the one “whom Jesus loved” unless they had a particularly **special** relationship? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-god-of-the-christian-trinity-is-gay/186247.md?page=3)