# The Goliath Cometh

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 21, 2000, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108 "2000-04-21T18:05:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![hardcore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5a626/32.png) [@hardcore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardcore)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/41 "2000-04-26T05:00:00Z")

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I actually wish types like pashley and CalifBoomer were not so quickly banished. What good is a kingdom without a few village idiots and fools to kick around?

But I guess there will always be a steady stream of new ones applying for the position. Without exile, we likely would be awash in them.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/42 "2000-04-26T05:09:00Z")

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I think we need a Sockpuppet Filter: all the puppet’s posts would be replaced by “Hi, I’m [name of puppetmaster]. I have a weak argument. And a very tiny dick.” 😃

I swear, kids these days…why, I remember the halcyon days of sockpuppetry; when I managed to sock-puppet “andros”, “Clark K” and “David B” flawlessly, registering them well in advance of any need and being sure to post several thousand posts in a distinct “voice” (well, except for “Clark K”, I never could really figure out what his motivation was supposed to be.) Heck, I even made sure to simulpost with my sockpuppets! You know, this sort of shoddy attention to detail is why the Japanese are going to kick our butts… ::g,d&r::

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**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/44 "2000-04-26T14:25:00Z")

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Yeah, it takes a real Grade-A Christian to be purposefully deceitful by creating false personages for message board posting; to brazenly defy a contract to which one is a signatory; and to openly, publicly and obnoxiously defy the duly constituted authorities on this MB, in defiance of Paul’s admonition to obey earthly authorities.

You must be very proud of yourself. I’m glad they aren’t all like you.

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**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/45 "2000-04-26T15:54:00Z")

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He’s no Christian, Phil.

He’s just a common, moronic troll.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/46 "2000-04-26T16:11:00Z")

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I believe Satan was the first to indicate that Everest was a sock puppet. Does he get some kind of award for that? I think he should, or at least a title.

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**Author:** ![Ptahlis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a8b319/32.png) [@Ptahlis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ptahlis)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/47 "2000-04-26T16:11:00Z")

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> Originally posted by Apologist:  
> \*\*Now, did you little boys think I was _ **actually going away so easily?** _
> 
> HAHAHAHA!
> 
> \*\*

I think it’s fine of you to admit your identity this way Everest/Pashley/Apologist, especially after the small dick/village idiot comments above. It takes courage to admit you are a village idiot with a small dick who was caught cheating. So I say “Kudos to the jester for putting on his motley for the enjoyment of onlookers!”

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Cogito ergo sum…I think.

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**Author:** ![SingleDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@SingleDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleDad)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/48 "2000-04-26T16:22:00Z")

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AFAIK, CalifBoomer hasn’t been banned. Nor should he be. He may often act the **putz** , but he has more personal integrity and intelligence in his little finger than pashley does in his whole body. I may be damning Boomer with faint praise here.

I think pashley/Everest/Apologist has earned our obligation to post _only_ “DNFTT” in our responses to him. Accordingly:

**DNFTT**

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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/49 "2000-04-26T16:23:00Z")

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[Moderator Hat ON]

C’mon, guys, if you want to fling direct personal insults (at an admittedly extremely tempting target), just take it to the Pit. “Apologist” has hopefully been banned already, BTW.

[Moderator Hat OFF]

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**Author:** ![The\_Ryan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7feea3/32.png) [@The\_Ryan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ryan)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/50 "2000-04-26T16:24:00Z")

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> Originally posted by oldscratch:  
> **I believe Satan was the first to indicate that Everest was a sock puppet. Does he get some kind of award for that? I think he should, or at least a title.**

Actually, I believe it was pashley that first indicated that Everest was a sock puppet.

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/51 "2000-04-26T16:26:00Z")

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No, “CalifBoomer” has been banned–he had two screen names too.

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**Author:** ![Spiritus\_Mundi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Spiritus\_Mundi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiritus_Mundi)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2000, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/52 "2000-04-27T05:17:00Z")

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> Spiritus, I would consider that as more than “checking in” … and it could be construed as offensive to at least one of the “official” participants.

My only question, JonF, was whether the “vision” was metaphorically accurate. I believe that question has been anwered now.

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The best lack all conviction  
The worst are full of passionate intensity.  
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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2000, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/53 "2000-04-27T05:23:00Z")

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> Originally posted by oldscratch:  
> I believe Satan was the first to indicate that Everest was a sock puppet. Does he get some kind of award for that? I think he should, or at least a title.

Well, I called Everest “Lambchop” after his second post, in advance (I think) of Satan’s identification. Does that count?

Either way, it was painfully obvious who Everest was.

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2000, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/54 "2000-04-27T05:28:00Z")

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Yes I think it does. You get the award/title/whatever. Anyone want to think of an official award/title to be handed out. I think Esprix would get one to, as well as some other people. You could add it to your sig line.

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**Author:** ![John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ccd318/32.png) [@John\_Kentzel-Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Kentzel-Griffin)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/55 "2000-04-26T18:25:00Z")

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Oh yeah, That’s just what **Esprix** needs - something to add to his .sig :rolleyes:

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Virtually yours,

DrMatrix  
If I’ve told you once, I’ve told you 0.99999999… times.

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**Author:** ![SingleDad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9e8a1a/32.png) [@SingleDad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SingleDad)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/56 "2000-04-26T18:28:00Z")

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Oh well. Doubt I’ll lose much sleep over the loss of Boomer. Kind of pisses me off, though, that I really did try to turn the guy around and he has to get himself booted for puppetry.

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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

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**Author:** ![Gadarene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Gadarene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadarene)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/57 "2000-04-26T18:41:00Z")

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> Originally posted by oldscratch:  
> Yes I think it does. You get the award/title/whatever. Anyone want to think of an official award/title to be handed out. I think Esprix would get one to, as well as some other people. You could add it to your sig line.

Fantastic. 😃

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/58 "2000-04-26T18:46:00Z")

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> Originally posted by **Gaudere** :
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> No, “CalifBoomer” has been banned–he had two screen names too.

**NO WAY!**

What was the other name?

Esprix

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Evidently, I rock.  
[Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/59 "2000-04-26T18:48:00Z")

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in regards to SingleDad’s comments.  
I think it does tell us something about their respective characters though. These were people who were fanatical about their beliefs, I think that having no one else agree with them, having no one else see “the truth” drove them nuts. They had to construc followers to agree. Ithink it shows a fundamental doubt over the truth of their own arguments.

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history repeats itself, the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce - Karl Marx

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/60 "2000-04-26T18:49:00Z")

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> Originally posted by **oldscratch** :
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> You get the award/title/whatever. Anyone want to think of an official award/title to be handed out. I think Esprix would get one to, as well as some other people. You could add it to your sig line.

Me? Why would I get one? 😕

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> Originally posted by **DrMatrix** :
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> Oh yeah, That’s just what Esprix needs - something to add to his .sig

_HEY!_ I’m down to two lines, thankyouverymuch. 😛

And everyone keep your eyes open - there’s another formerly banned poster who is back, but hasn’t revealed himself yet. Be patient, young pupils, and we will be rewarded…

Esprix

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Evidently, I rock.  
[Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)

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**Author:** ![oldscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ed655f/32.png) [@oldscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oldscratch)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2000, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-goliath-cometh/18108/61 "2000-04-26T18:52:00Z")

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I thought you exposed the urge. Did you not? has my memory failed me? oh well. However did should get an award.

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