# The good doctor's post was okay - it's Bodoni's that's idiotic **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 12, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325 "2006-04-12T03:27:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/81 "2006-04-12T15:00:28Z")
**Bryan** , I missed the two little words “as well”. Anyway, great job summarizing his pattern. ---
**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/82 "2006-04-12T15:04:26Z")
My goodness, it’s a veritable smorgasbord! I can’t eat it all, but I will pick from some of what I consider to be the chercist pernts. That’s what one does at a smorgasbord. Get it? Q: Does **drmark2000** really possess a doctoral degree in clinical psychology from an accredited institution? A: Yes. Wishing it were not so will not make it not so. As I always like to say, “The truth remains the truth regardless of what one opts to believe.” Q: Has **drmark2000** ever asserted the above except in response to another poster’s disputing it? A: No, he has not. Q: Does it matter? A: Only to those insecure in their own abilities, who regard those with formal credentials as “better” than they, somehow. Fools, do you not realize that scores on scales of creativity actually tend to _decrease_ with further formal education? I am so wise and admirable _despite_ my education, not _because_ of it. Remember this. Q: Is the fact that those who express anything resembling support of **drmark2000** are in the minority mean that the majority should rule? A: No, it doesn’t. We must try to respect and validate the opinions of minorities, not simply discount and deride them because they are in the minority. This is called “prejudice,” and is most unbecoming to boards such as these. Q: Is **drmark2000** mysogynistic and “against” marriage? A: No and no. **drmark2000** _loves_ women. And he’ll tell you something else. Married women make some of the best lovers on Earth, outside of marriage, but still, WOW! All of that pent-up sexual energy resulting from a husband who is no longer attracted to her and couldn’t get it up and keep it up even if he were. Single women are great, but married women are da bomb! Much fun, and meaningful intercourse! Q: Does **drmark2000** opt not to “argue in good faith.” A: **drmark2000** argues with absolute sincerity at all times, in every instance. He has said nothing that he would ever disavow. Q: Is **drmark2000** full of “adolescent nihilistic bullshit“? A: Let’s take a closer look at this thought. These adolescents that develop out of the babies people produce undergo a massive neurological maturation as they launch into puberty. They become capable of viewing the world in a larger picture than ever before. Consequently, they become aware of the lies they have been told by all of the adults around them, and react accordingly. This is why we regard them as obnoxious, and advise them to simply learn to play the game as it is already played, rather than waste time in fighting city hall. Most of them get beaten down, eventually. **drmark2000** didn’t, and has survived to 44 years with all the extra perspective and insight those extra years have provided. Q: Is **drmark2000** drunk? A: “Be drunken always! With wine, with poetry, with virtue, as you will!” - Baudelaire **drmark2000** chooses virtue and poetry, then wine, in that order. Q: So, is this **drmark2000** ‘s Magnum Opus, also known as The One. A: Not even close. Wait for it. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/83 "2006-04-12T15:07:08Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > The thread was harmless and should not have been closed. Oh yeah, this thread was supposed to be about the merits of closing the marriage thread. Looking only at the thread in question, I agree with you completely. It is not a remarkable thread. It is, however, part of a pattern that has resulted in a recent suspension and which has created a sort of “drmark2000 versus the SDMB” atmosphere. He has raised the scrutiny level for himself by his actions, and this closing may be part of the price for that. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/84 "2006-04-12T15:09:31Z")
> [@roger thornhill](#): > > Oh, no, the Bodoni Fan Club’s in session… **Rog** , you weren’t always such a prat. What happened? ( **drmark** , on the other hand, has been a thoroughgoing prat since day one.) ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/85 "2006-04-12T15:12:59Z")
> [@drmark2000](#): > > Q: Has **drmark2000** ever asserted the above except in response to another poster’s disputing it? > A: No, he has not. If it was not first asserted, how would someone get the idea to dispute it? Just curious. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/86 "2006-04-12T15:17:36Z")
We need to change it to “sophomoric nihilistic bullshit” Thanks for the laugh; I needed it. Nothing is so funny as someone else’s selfrighteousness. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/87 "2006-04-12T15:26:38Z")
> [@Crotalus](#): > > Oh yeah, this thread was supposed to be about the merits of closing the marriage thread. Looking only at the thread in question, I agree with you completely. It is not a remarkable thread. It is, however, part of a pattern that has resulted in a recent suspension and which has created a sort of “drmark2000 versus the SDMB” atmosphere. He has raised the scrutiny level for himself by his actions, and this closing may be part of the price for that. On reflection, I suppose the thread was more appropriate for Great Debates, except he decided to actually pit folks who are married. What bothers me, I guess is that Dopers are smart, generally, yet they cannot seem to stop their desire to respond to these kind of posts. I may be wrong, but I think there are many here who like the **drmarks** for the express purpose that they can go in and say how stupid he is and even better, post that extra special zinger. I opened that thread, read the OP and said, “Eh, idiot” and moved on. Yes, I am know he has a lot of threads. Why do you suppose that is? It is because of a need for attention? Maybe. Probably. Guess what, it works, we heap tons of attention on him. Why do we do it? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/88 "2006-04-12T15:31:08Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > On reflection, I suppose the thread was more appropriate for Great Debates, except he decided to actually pit folks who are married. What bothers me, I guess is that Dopers are smart, generally, yet they cannot seem to stop their desire to respond to these kind of posts. I may be wrong, but I think there are many here who like the **drmarks** for the express purpose that they can go in and say how stupid he is and even better, post that extra special zinger. > > I opened that thread, read the OP and said, “Eh, idiot” and moved on. Yes, I am know he has a lot of threads. Why do you suppose that is? It is because of a need for attention? Maybe. Probably. Guess what, it works, we heap tons of attention on him. Why do we do it? It was in the Pit and half the posts or more did not address the Content of the OP but the OP himself. If it was in GD, it probably would have been largely ignored. Again the genius of Dr Mark. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/89 "2006-04-12T15:31:51Z")
> [@drmark2000](#): > > My eyes well up with tears of appreciation for you all! > > More later. [url=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?username=Phaedrus](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?username=Phaedrus)”]Phaedrus returns. Except Phaedrus was a self-proclaimed legal genius, eminent mycologist, and Defender of the Native American Way. Fuck me running. ---
**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/90 "2006-04-12T15:32:21Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > Yes, I am know he has a lot of threads. Why do you suppose that is? It is because of a need for attention? Maybe. Probably. Guess what, it works, we heap tons of attention on him. Why do we do it? Jesus Christ, **Octy** , I boast fewer than 500 posts _total_ while those who have subscribed for far less time than I have many thousands! You and yours are weakening. And you were weak to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/91 "2006-04-12T15:32:57Z")
Goddamn tags. [url=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?username=Phaedrus](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?username=Phaedrus)”]Phaedrus[/ur] returns. Fuck me again. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/92 "2006-04-12T15:36:19Z")
nope, still not right. [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?username=Phaedrus), let me help you. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/93 "2006-04-12T15:37:14Z")
**drmark2000** , whether he actually holds an advanced degree or not, has done a fine job of crafting an on-line persona. I find it impressive that he always posts in character. He is, in a way, this board’s **Larry the Cable Guy**. Just as with Larry, not all members of the audience find the character entertaining. Some will even be offended. For my part, while I admire the effort **drmark2000** puts into being **drmark2000** , I am not particularly entertained. I nearly always skip his posts. Still, I don’t think it necessary to ban him. It should be enough for other members who also find him tedious to also skip over his posts. Eventually, he’ll either drop/modify his act or go away. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/94 "2006-04-12T15:39:18Z")
Q: Does **drmark2000** post in the third person? A: When it suits him. Q: Is **drmark2000** an egotistical bastard? A: Let’s just say that his self esteem is very healthy. Q: Is **drmark2000** a doctor, and are there two thousand of him? A: Yes and yes. Q: Is **drmark2000** some kind of crazed sex god? A: Well, we all know that he _loves_ women and that he is the only one capable of giving married women the attention that their husbands are not capable of giving, so yes. He is. Q: Has **drmark2000** been to the deepest depths of the ocean? A: Yes. Twice. For forty minutes. Q: Could **drmark2000** take Chuck Norris in a fight? A: Not in a physical contest, but in a battle of wits and ability to provide loving to women **drmark2000** would prevail. Kinda fun, like a **drmark2000** fact generator. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/95 "2006-04-12T15:41:08Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > nope, still not right. > [Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/member.php?username=Phaedrus), let me help you. Thanks, man. Appreciate the assist. You’d think I’d have done a preview on the second attempt, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/96 "2006-04-12T15:43:13Z")
**Drmark** , please take a break from banging married women and hurry up with that magnum opus before you get banninated. Inquiring minds want to know! ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/97 "2006-04-12T15:44:27Z")
The Doctor apparently forgot one. Q: Are we not men? A: We are **drmark2000**. Anyway, I vote for “he’s takin’ the piss”. ---
**Author:** ![Mtgman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@Mtgman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mtgman)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/98 "2006-04-12T15:46:21Z")
> [@UncleBeer](#): > > Thanks, man. Appreciate the assist. You’d think I’d have done a preview on the second attempt, eh? Well, you had been fucked running and then fucked again. One might expect a little sloppiness when posting in the post-coital bliss, especially combined with the “runner’s high”. Enjoy, Steven ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/99 "2006-04-12T15:47:35Z")
> [@Gangster Octopus](#): > > we heap tons of attention on him. Why do we do it? I gave this some thought and it _is_ a valid concern that this board not become too cliquish and restricted to a slowly-shrinking pool of like-minded old-timers. I’d say the reaction to drmark is a healthy one; he’s presented some radical views but he’s not being criticized solely because of some alleged shaking of the status quo. Rather, he’s being blasted for being a jerk, plain and simple. I take it as a good sign when his threads get _some_ intelligent commentary on the subject at hand, and _lots_ of personal slams at drmark’s childish behaviour. It means we can distinguish between the two. That said, I’d agree that it wasn’t appropriate to call the marriage thread idiotic because as a concept, it isn’t. drmark’s behaviour _within_ the thread, echoing as it does his behaviour in several other threads, more than qualifies. I’d be okay with reopening the thread while banning the OP of it. Without his “contribution”, it might actually make for an interesting, intelligent, adult discussion. Anyway, I can’t claim any of this as original insight; other posters have made the case before and better. If Scumpup is correct and his drmark’s online persona is deliberately and thoughtfully manufactured, then I’d suggest now would be a good time for him to ease out of it. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/100 "2006-04-12T15:59:02Z")
So, if I’m understanding this correctly, **drmark2000** ’s thread was closed because he has a history of being a jackass? Meaning if someone else had posted the same thing we could be enjoying a lively discussion about the cons and cons of marriage? I personally think it’s a great topic for discussion, regardless of **drmarks2000** ’s reputation. I don’t generally care about the mods’ practices, and certainly never enough to comment on them, but this just seems really lame(and I like Lynn just fine). Perhaps reading **drmark2000** ’s other posts would get me sufficiently riled up as to agree with the closing, but I doubt it. It just seems to me that one thing should have nothing to do with the other. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325.md?page=6)