# The good doctor's post was okay - it's Bodoni's that's idiotic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 12, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325 "2006-04-12T03:27:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/101 "2006-04-12T16:00:34Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Kinda fun, like a **drmark2000** fact generator.

Q: Could **drmark2000** win a land war in Asia?  
A: Drawing upon his Mongolian hertiage, yes unless there were any walls in the way.

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**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/102 "2006-04-12T16:05:38Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> **drmark2000** , whether he actually holds an advanced degree or not, has done a fine job of crafting an on-line persona. I find it impressive that he always posts in character. He is, in a way, this board’s **Larry the Cable Guy**. Just as with Larry, not all members of the audience find the character entertaining. Some will even be offended.

Nice job, **Scumpup**. But do you really consider mine a “persona?” The point of all of the fucking boards like these is to be able to say what we think, without thought of the ostracizement that takes place in normal, face-to-face human interaction. This is the glory of these boards! We must preserve and defend it!

> [@Scumpup](#):
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> For my part, while I admire the effort **drmark2000** puts into being **drmark2000** , I am not particularly entertained. I nearly always skip his posts. Still, I don’t think it necessary to ban him. It should be enough for other members who also find him tedious to also skip over his posts. Eventually, he’ll either drop/modify his act or go away.

And I admire your admiration. It is well deserved, after all. If you’re not entertained then, just as you say, _skip_ my posts. If you choose the “Ignore Poster” feature you are engaging in embracing complete gutlessness, as so many do. I skip plenty of posts, not that I want to. To choose the ignore option for others’ posts is a vile and reprehensible practice.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/103 "2006-04-12T16:11:01Z")

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That’s right, **Bryan**. **Bodoni** closing the thread in such a peremptory, high-handed and unjustifiable fashion stopped a discussion that the good doctor wasn’t dominating dead in its tracks. It was quite unnecessary and if she, or her fellow powers-that-be, have any balls (cue hilarious nanoswarm Simpsonesque jokes), they would reopen it immediately. Period.

And, **Cervaise** , shame on you for trying that manipulative bullshit. Any member who sees his or her presence here in terms of a popularity contest ends up with nil respect. As you well know.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/104 "2006-04-12T16:11:57Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> So, if I’m understanding this correctly, **drmark2000** ’s thread was closed because he has a history of being a jackass? Meaning if someone else had posted the same thing we could be enjoying a lively discussion about the cons and cons of marriage? I personally think it’s a great topic for discussion, regardless of **drmarks2000** ’s reputation. I don’t generally care about the mods’ practices, and certainly never enough to comment on them, but this just seems really lame(and I like Lynn just fine). Perhaps reading **drmark2000** ’s other posts would get me sufficiently riled up as to agree with the closing, but I doubt it. It just seems to me that one thing should have nothing to do with the other.

You really might want to read some of his threads. [This one should belong in any proper SDMB hall of shame.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=343779) He has a pattern that is, by this point, well established.

It would be fine to have anybody else start a marriage thread because virtually any other Doper wouldn’t be starting such a thread with the deliberate purpose of being inflammatory, baiting people, making snide spurious “professional opinions” of the mental health of other Dopers, and other jerkish behavior. The bad doctor has made a habit of coming as close to the line as possible, and that thread should have been closed if only to stop him from, yet again, engaging in his song and dance. The best way, of course, to stop him is, and will be, his upcomming banning.

Oh and, just for the peanut gallery, as sure as I am Spartacus, it occurs to me that anybody who had actual training and had done thousands of hours of research into human sexuality might get their information from said research, and not commedy routines.

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> [@](#):
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> 1. People who are married are more likely to have emotionally and physically satisfying sex lives than single people or those who just live together.
> 
> Contrary to the popular belief that married sex is boring and infrequent, married people report higher levels of sexual satisfaction than both sexually active singles and cohabiting couples, according to the most comprehensive and recent survey of sexuality. Forty-two percent of wives said that they found sex extremely emotionally and physically satisfying, compared to just 31 percent of single women who had a sex partner. And 48 percent of husbands said sex was extremely satisfying emotionally, compared to just 37 percent of cohabiting men. The higher level of commitment in marriage is probably the reason for the high level of reported sexual satisfaction; marital commitment contributes to a greater sense of trust and security, less drug and alcohol-infused sex, and more mutual communication between the couple.

]([http://marriage.rutgers.edu/Publications/pubtenthingsyoungadults.htm](http://marriage.rutgers.edu/Publications/pubtenthingsyoungadults.htm))

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> But the real joke is that marriage actually makes sex better.
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> A University of Chicago study shows that married couples are having more sex — an average of six times a month, vs. four times a month for singles of the same age. And it’s not just more sex, it’s better sex.

]([http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=230011&page=3](http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=230011&page=3))

I’m not only the leader of a massive slave rebellion, I’m also a doctor.  
And I will have sex with your wife.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/105 "2006-04-12T16:13:37Z")

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Is **drmark2000’s** degree a Ph.D. or Psy.D.?

In which states is **drmark2000** licensed to practice as a clinical psychologist? For how many years has he been licensed?

Has **drmark2000** ever published in a peer-reviewed journal? If so, which and on what topic(s)?

If **drmark2000** does possess a degree in psychology, why does **drmark2000** sound fairly ignorant about psychological issues (or about general topics) when he writes about them here?

As one with a PhD in clinical psychology, I can say that I have met several people over the years who should not have doctoral degrees in clinical psychology, yet do. Fortunately, they are among the minority, but they do exist.

The degree is not a guarantee that any sort of criterion level of intelligence or maturity has been met, although the process makes it more difficult for the stupid or childish to progress too far. Still, exceptions do occur.

Perhaps I should change my name to **DrHentor**?

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/106 "2006-04-12T16:17:54Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> Perhaps I should change my name to **DrHentor**?

You could, but it’d sound ever so much more bitchin if you put a number (preferably large) behind it. How does **DrHentor3000000000** strike you?

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/107 "2006-04-12T16:18:52Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> **Abbie** , I don’t think that **drmark2000** is being attacked for his opinions. I believe that his history here has been to start threads with premises stated in such a way that they will evoke strong responses, which is okay. He then usually refuses or fails to support his points, and flings insults and superior comments at everyone. Lots of people have opinions here which others strongly disagree with.

Heck, I tend to agree with the sentiments posted in the referenced OP, and even I would have locked that thread for deliberate provocation had I been a mod.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/108 "2006-04-12T16:23:06Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> …  
> Oh and, just for the peanut gallery, as sure as I am Spartacus…snip…

No, I am Spartacus!  
Does anyone recall the Thread where he teamed up with other nutjobs to insult all of our intelligences, it was pre-suspension and not his Op. He teamed up with \*\*mswas \*\* and **Aeschines**. If not here it is: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=351735&page=1](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=351735&page=1)

This one was fun [What is the greatest human cruelty](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=357961)?

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/109 "2006-04-12T16:23:13Z")

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**Dr Hentor** , you could certainly do with brushing up your reading skills, or learning to lay aside your prejudices when reading posts that conflict with your own worldview as [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7290381&postcount=51) shows.

The only place I was demanding apologies from anyone is in your head. Enough material there for a whole conference, I shouldn’t wonder.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/110 "2006-04-12T16:23:38Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> Heck, I tend to agree with the sentiments posted in the referenced OP, and even I would have locked that thread for deliberate provocation had I been a mod.

Thats only because your hatred for shrinks, extends to those whose claim to shrinkhood is dubious. [insert smilie]

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**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/111 "2006-04-12T16:26:11Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> Q: Is **drmark2000** some kind of crazed sex god?  
> A: Well, we all know that he _loves_ women and that he is the only one capable of giving married women the attention that their husbands are not capable of giving, so yes. He is.

I’m not the only one, you dumbfuck. There are scores of guys who would bone your own wife (if you have made the mistake of acquiring one) in one second, and she’d be happy to have them. This is only natural, for decent human beings.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/112 "2006-04-12T16:26:40Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> That’s right, **Bryan**. **Bodoni** closing the thread in such a peremptory, high-handed and unjustifiable fashion stopped a discussion that the good doctor wasn’t dominating dead in its tracks. It was quite unnecessary and if she, or her fellow powers-that-be, have any balls (cue hilarious nanoswarm Simpsonesque jokes), they would reopen it immediately. Period.

Why not e-mail Lynn and ask if she has any objection to you opening a thread in GD with a similar premise? I wouldn’t link back to drmark’s thread, though, since he’d started it in the Pit with the obvious intent to express anger/dismay/disgust at Dopers who are married. Start the subject fresh, with no mention of him. I think it could be a very interesting thread (example title: “Is marriage still necessary?”), though I myself (having never been married) probably couldn’t contribute anything particularly insightful to it.

Be diplomatic; I doubt insults will help.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/113 "2006-04-12T16:26:49Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> **Dr Hentor** , you could certainly do with brushing up your reading skills, or learning to lay aside your prejudices when reading posts that conflict with your own worldview as [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=7290381&postcount=51) shows.
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> The only place I was demanding apologies from anyone is in your head. Enough material there for a whole conference, I shouldn’t wonder.

😕 Referencing one thread and seeming to fit a post in another thread. 😕 Which one is this in reference to?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/114 "2006-04-12T16:26:56Z")

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Why does this board have such a hard time with allowing “offensive” pit threads?

So I’m in the group he’s pitting. He’s got a fair point, whether or not I’m offended. 50% of marriages _do_ end in divorce, and forcing a child’s existence (whether in or out of marriage) is one of the most presumptious things one can do (although I’ve done it).

He pitted marriage. Get a grip. Get over it.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/115 "2006-04-12T16:29:40Z")

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> [@drmark2000](#):
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> I’m not the only one, you dumbfuck. There are scores of guys who would bone your own wife (if you have made the mistake of acquiring one) in one second, and she’d be happy to have them. This is only natural, for decent human beings.

Q: Does **drmark2000** have a sense of humor?  
A: Humor is for the lesser beings that lack **drmark2000** s wit and ability to bone married women. If he were to have a sense of humor, his jokes would be so intelligent that only Chuck Norris and God would get them.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/116 "2006-04-12T16:31:01Z")

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> [@drmark2000](#):
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> Nice job, **Scumpup**. But do you really consider mine a “persona?” The point of all of the fucking boards like these is to be able to say what we think, without thought of the ostracizement that takes place in normal, face-to-face human interaction. This is the glory of these boards! We must preserve and defend it!

Yes, it is unquestionably a persona; a comic-opera one at that. Just as **Larry the Cable Guy** is a caricature of a redneck, **drmark2000** is a caricature of an egomaniacal attention whore. Also just as with Larry, the schtick was funny for a little while, but it is now tiresome. The actual opinions you express are rather simpleminded and, if not delivered in \*\*drmark2000 \*\* character, wouldn’t excite any notable degree of animosity.

> [@drmark2000](#):
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> And I admire your admiration. It is well deserved, after all. If you’re not entertained then, just as you say, _skip_ my posts. If you choose the “Ignore Poster” feature you are engaging in embracing complete gutlessness, as so many do. I skip plenty of posts, not that I want to. To choose the ignore option for others’ posts is a vile and reprehensible practice.

This bit, above, is a perfect example of you acting as **drmark2000**. I do simply skip your posts, I don’t need or use an ignore feature to screen out chaff. Anyway, I expect that the fellow under the **drmark2000** costume is probably reasonably intelligent and gifted with a modicum of creativity. If that man should ever put in an appearance here, it might spark my interest to read some of what he has to say. In the meantime, **drmark2000** is handled the same way I handle Larry the Cable Guy, Raymond J Johnson Jr, Urkel, and other characters I find tedious: I move on to something that _is_ interesting and funny.

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**Author:** ![drmark2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@drmark2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drmark2000)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/117 "2006-04-12T16:32:37Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Why does this board have such a hard time with allowing “offensive” pit threads?
> 
> So I’m in the group he’s pitting. He’s got a fair point, whether or not I’m offended. 50% of marriages _do_ end in divorce, and forcing a child’s existence (whether in or out of marriage) is one of the most presumptious things one can do (although I’ve done it).
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> He pitted marriage. Get a grip. Get over it.

Goddamned fucking straight! But, why do you feel this way?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/118 "2006-04-12T16:33:30Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> **drmark2000** , whether he actually holds an advanced degree or not, has done a fine job of crafting an on-line persona. I find it impressive that he always posts in character. He is, in a way, this board’s **Larry the Cable Guy**.

More like the board’s **Nathan Thurm** if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/119 "2006-04-12T16:33:38Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Why does this board have such a hard time with allowing “offensive” pit threads?
> 
> So I’m in the group he’s pitting. He’s got a fair point, whether or not I’m offended. 50% of marriages _do_ end in divorce, and forcing a child’s existence (whether in or out of marriage) is one of the most presumptious things one can do (although I’ve done it).
> 
> He pitted marriage. Get a grip. Get over it.

Again for the terminally stupid: it was NOT closed because he Pitted marriage. It was closed because of his BEHAVIOR in said thread.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2006, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-doctors-post-was-okay-its-bodonis-thats-idiotic/352325/120 "2006-04-12T16:38:39Z")

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> [@Bryan Ekers](#):
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> Why not e-mail Lynn and ask if she has any objection to you opening a thread in GD with a similar premise? I wouldn’t link back to drmark’s thread, though, since he’d started it in the Pit with the obvious intent to express anger/dismay/disgust at Dopers who are married. Start the subject fresh, with no mention of him. I think it could be a very interesting thread (example title: “Is marriage still necessary?”), though I myself (having never been married) probably couldn’t contribute anything particularly insightful to it.
> 
> Be diplomatic; I doubt insults will help.

I have no objection to such a thread in GD, as long as it’s not trolling. I considered **drmark’s** OP to be trolling, which is why I closed the thread, and why I have asked the other mods about his posting privileges (and we are still talking, BTW, most of us have lives outside the SDMB).

And yeah, _I_ can say that I think someone’s trolling, because I’m on the moderating staff.

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