# The Good Place \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Don\_Draper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Don\_Draper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_Draper)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2017, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/282 "2017-09-14T20:01:30Z")
Glad to see a thread on this show. In fact, I just discovered it. With no more “Twin Peaks”, I was looking for something off-beat to watch on Sunday nights and on a whim I checked this out. I couldn’t stop watching it! The show is different, off-beat, engaging, and rarity of rarity, laugh-out-loud funny. I guessed the big twist of the finale about one episode before it actually occurred. Something about it made me think of that old “Twilight Zone” episode and I realized it was the same gimmick. But they still pulled it off brilliantly. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2017, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/283 "2017-09-18T01:02:35Z")
I’ve been rewatching this in anticipation of the new season (new season - yay!) and it’s really, really impressive how well everything still fits when you know the big twist at the end. I saw a spoiler-free review of the first few episodes of the new season and it was very favorable. I’m looking forward to it. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/284 "2017-09-20T14:20:37Z")
Just a heads-up that season 2 starts tonight (at 10 PM, for some reason.) ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/285 "2017-09-20T15:01:57Z")
> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#): > > Just binge re-watched the show in anticipation of the new season. Just some thoughts: > > (1) Anyone notice that in the brief glimpse of the Good Place 2.0 that the frozen yogurt stores have been replaced by pizza places, with names like “Perfect Temperature Pizza” and “All the Right Toppings”? > (2) We never found out how Tahani died. > (3) My current theory is that Michael can erase his victims conscious memory, but not their subconscious (or soul?). Each time through the cycle Eleanor improves herself a little bit until finally her ethical level is high enough that the last time she wakes up she is really in the good place. I read an article that said that this version of the “Good Place” is gonna be slightly more diabolical - a fountain that oozes creamed corn and (horror of horrors!) all the pizza places only serve Hawaiian pizza. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/286 "2017-09-21T02:17:25Z")
Just started watching season 2. “Fire up the penis flattner”. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/287 "2017-09-21T03:08:03Z")
Drat, missed it. I even looked at the tv schedule. Obviously not well enough. Brian ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/288 "2017-09-21T03:13:55Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Drat, missed it. I even looked at the tv schedule. Obviously not well enough. > > Brian Ted Danson is the one being tortured tonight. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/289 "2017-09-21T07:19:30Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Ted Danson is the one being tortured tonight. Indeed, he seems quite miserable. I wonder if it’s actually been _his_ bad place all along! ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/290 "2017-09-21T10:53:36Z")
> [@GaryM](#): > > Just started watching season 2. “Fire up the penis flattner”. Butthole spiders. Large butthole spiders. ---
**Author:** ![Tapiotar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3be4f8/32.png) [@Tapiotar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapiotar)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/291 "2017-09-21T10:56:21Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Indeed, he seems quite miserable. I wonder if it’s actually been _his_ bad place all along! Now that would be a twist. Loved the variations in circumstances of each of the four, and how it changed their personalities, and how quickly they caught on to what was going on. I don’t think they are torturers assigned to Danson, because they were figuring things out when Danson wasn’t looking. I think. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/292 "2017-09-21T11:49:02Z")
They might not be in on it. Maybe Sean is manipulating everything behind the scenes. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/293 "2017-09-21T13:29:52Z")
I also found it interesting that the “actors” are causing problems and being rebellious. Maybe Ted is the one being tortured. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/294 "2017-09-21T14:37:48Z")
The punishment for philosophers is to be given a final exam in a course they’ve never taken. While naked. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/295 "2017-09-21T15:39:21Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > The punishment for philosophers is to be given a final exam in a course they’ve never taken. > > While naked. Of course, Ted isn’t exactly a reliable narrator. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/296 "2017-09-21T16:27:30Z")
Loved what they did with the narrative – and that they didn’t drag things out (which would have been very tedious). Eleanor figured out the situation quickly. I also loved how Chidi was handled – first he was being forced to make a choice right off the bat, then they announce his soulmate is not the one he clearly had everything in common with. And Real Eleanor complaining that she had a bit part. I also agree that Michael is being tortured here, too. He’s starting the lie to Sean, which puts him exactly in the position Eleanor was in the first season premiere: afraid the truth would be found out. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/297 "2017-09-21T17:03:09Z")
> [@Don\_Draper](#): > > I guessed the big twist of the finale about one episode before it actually occurred. Something about it made me think of that old “Twilight Zone” episode and I realized it was the same gimmick. But they still pulled it off brilliantly. Can someone give a summary of what happened (within spoiler tags)? I was watching the show at the beginning, but forgot about it when they took a winter break. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/298 "2017-09-21T17:36:06Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Can someone give a summary of what happened (within spoiler tags)? I was watching the show at the beginning, but forgot about it when they took a winter break. Eleanor, Chidi, Tahani, and Jason are all actually in the Bad Place, having been chosen specifically to torture one another. Everyone else in the village are demons playing a part to drive the four main characters into constant conflict. Our heroes eventually figure this out, and confront Michael, who admits defeat. Then he erases their memories and resolves to do it better next time. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/299 "2017-09-21T20:48:05Z")
This show always goes by so quickly; it’s one of network television’s crown jewels. I agree that the second season premiere was impressive and fun. Poor Tahani seemed to suffer most (though perhaps she’s discovered a ‘keeper’ in cargo pants). ---
**Author:** ![Alley\_Dweller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alley_dweller/32/430_2.png) [@Alley\_Dweller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alley_Dweller)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/300 "2017-09-21T22:24:30Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Drat, missed it. I even looked at the tv schedule. Obviously not well enough. > > Brian It is available for free on the NBC web site. No sign-up or login required: > **[Watch The Good Place Episode: Everything Is Great! - NBC.com](https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place/video/everything-is-great/3585089)** > > Watch Everything Is Great! (Season 2, Episode 1) > of The Good Place or get episode details on NBC.com ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/301 "2017-09-22T00:26:52Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > They might not be in on it. Maybe Sean is manipulating everything behind the scenes. Agreed. I can see him doing this to Michael for his own amusement. Or maybe Michael’s already been retired. > [@GaryM](#): > > I also found it interesting that the “actors” are causing problems and being rebellious. Maybe Ted is the one being tortured. I’m sure every TV showrunner ever can relate to him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=16)