# The Good Place \[edited title\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/402 "2017-10-11T21:16:41Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> So for the big “twist”, do you look back at the first season and think it all makes sense? Or does the twist seem like something the writers pulled out of thin air? Are there clues in the first season which indicate this is where they were going all along?

Lots. [Here’s one list.](http://www.vulture.com/2017/01/the-good-place-finale-twist-all-the-clues.html)

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/403 "2017-10-11T21:25:49Z")

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> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Lots. [Here’s one list.](http://www.vulture.com/2017/01/the-good-place-finale-twist-all-the-clues.html)

Also, the idea that Eleanor got there because of some one-in-a-wacky-high-number coincidence that was so ludicrously improbable as to be unforeseen – okay, we grant that because otherwise there’s no series. But as soon as we find out that a _second_ person got in on an unrelated coincidence-mixup? In retrospect, that makes way more sense if those are just _lies,_ since the alternative is that heaven made two of those almost-never-happens mistakes right next door to each other.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/404 "2017-10-11T21:47:16Z")

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Re: twist clues

> [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](#):
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> Lots. [Here’s one list.](http://www.vulture.com/2017/01/the-good-place-finale-twist-all-the-clues.html)

Thanks. That’s really good to hear. I’m going to give this another shot and start from the beginning.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/405 "2017-10-11T22:35:18Z")

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Only heard of this show when the 2nd season recently premiered. After watching that I flash binged the first season to see what was happening. I love the Jason character, pure stupidity. Looks like they’re going somewhere with Janet this season. I’ll keep watching for a while.

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**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/406 "2017-10-12T01:07:40Z")

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A really silly [“Which character are you”](https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbate/which-character-from-the-good-place-are-you?utm_term=.ejvjnynlY#.sq5BnOn5Y) buzzfeed quiz.

I got Janet. I’m ok with that.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/407 "2017-10-12T01:57:18Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> A really silly [“Which character are you”](https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbate/which-character-from-the-good-place-are-you?utm_term=.ejvjnynlY#.sq5BnOn5Y) buzzfeed quiz.
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> I got Janet. I’m ok with that.

I’m Eleanor.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/408 "2017-10-12T02:00:39Z")

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I got . . . Michael?

Huh. Well, he’s a hard worker, I guess.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/409 "2017-10-12T02:39:05Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> A really silly [“Which character are you”](https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbate/which-character-from-the-good-place-are-you?utm_term=.ejvjnynlY#.sq5BnOn5Y) buzzfeed quiz.
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> I got Janet. I’m ok with that.

Heh. Janet too. I was expecting Chidi. Happy to be Janet!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/410 "2017-10-12T04:17:45Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I got . . . Michael?
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> Huh. Well, he’s a hard worker, I guess.

I also got Michael and a hard worker I am not, hence I question the utility of this test.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/411 "2017-10-12T14:13:28Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> I got Janet. I’m ok with that.

She’s not a robot! Also, she’s not a girl!

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**Author:** ![Poysyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Poysyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Poysyn)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/412 "2017-10-12T18:40:23Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> But you’re saying they were in the same room? (The actress was there on split screen or such?)

Okay, that I don’t recall. I think so, but not sure…

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/413 "2017-10-12T19:25:14Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Also, the idea that Eleanor got there because of some one-in-a-wacky-high-number coincidence that was so ludicrously improbable as to be unforeseen – okay, we grant that because otherwise there’s no series. But as soon as we find out that a _second_ person got in on an unrelated coincidence-mixup? In retrospect, that makes way more sense if those are just _lies,_ since the alternative is that heaven made two of those almost-never-happens mistakes right next door to each other.

In my head, I reconciled that because Michael kept saying that it was his first time being in charge of a neighborhood. I chalked it up to new guy, in over his head, doesn’t know what he’s doing, makes some mistakes incompetence. It was also plausible (at the time) that other good place neighborhoods had similar mistakes (the idea that the afterlife is a bureaucracy that can get mismanaged is something that pops up frequently) - and Michael just didn’t know about them.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/414 "2017-10-12T19:26:47Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> A really silly [“Which character are you”](https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbate/which-character-from-the-good-place-are-you?utm_term=.ejvjnynlY#.sq5BnOn5Y) buzzfeed quiz.

Before taking it, I’m expecting Chidi.

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Nope. Tahani.

I…I don’t know how to respond to this.

(Especially since I really _want_ to be Chidi in the image they use to illustrate Tahani… **fans self** )

Actually, I do know…Hahaha…overachiever.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/415 "2017-10-12T19:29:44Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> But you’re saying they were in the same room? (The actress was there on split screen or such?)

I’m _pretty_ sure the two Janets were never in the same room together. Not 100% since it’s been a while since I watched season 1, but, like, 98%.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/416 "2017-10-12T19:33:18Z")

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> [@Kamino\_Neko](#):
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> I’m _pretty_ sure the two Janets were never in the same room together. Not 100% since it’s been a while since I watched season 1, but, like, 98%.

Thanks. (Same thing for me–it’s a while since I watched season 1, but my memory was that we’d only ever seen one Janet at a time.)

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/417 "2017-10-12T20:22:49Z")

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> [@Fair\_Rarity](#):
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> A really silly [“Which character are you”](https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbate/which-character-from-the-good-place-are-you?utm_term=.ejvjnynlY#.sq5BnOn5Y) buzzfeed quiz.
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> I got Janet. I’m ok with that.

I’m a Janet, too.

You got: Janet

You believe in the power of knowledge above all, and pride yourself on your ability to look at situations objectively. Your loved ones know you’re the best person to come to for advice, because you don’t let feelings get in the way, and you always tell it how it is.

StG

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/418 "2017-10-12T20:33:58Z")

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Ugh, I got Michael. This quiz is stupid; I should be allowed to torture it.

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**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/419 "2017-10-12T22:07:40Z")

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I was expecting Chidi, but got Jianyu. This one hurts.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/420 "2017-10-12T22:39:16Z")

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> [@Uniqueorn](#):
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> I was expecting Chidi, but got Jianyu. This one hurts.

Jianyu, or Jason?

Not the same thing at all!

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/421 "2017-10-12T22:50:56Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> Ugh, I got Michael. This quiz is stupid; I should be allowed to torture it.

The quiz is torturing you. Welcome to The Bad Place.

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