# The Good Place \[edited title\]

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/442 "2017-10-21T00:00:31Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> Oh, one last question…anyone know how how they did that thumb-flying-away thing? I don’t ever remember seeing a body effect that completely seamless before.

Just standard digital compositing.  
[ul]  
[li]You have what’s called a background plate, that is an image of the background without the people in it (though they only needed a portion for this trick) to “paint” over the things that are missing, i.e. on top of her real thumb.[/li][li]Then you rotoscope or isolate the thumb as a separate layer, and animate it as stretching and floating.[/li][li]Close ups are the same, but more accuracy may be required. It also goes out of focus to match the real camera, a simple default effect.[/li][/ul]

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/443 "2017-10-21T03:44:17Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> …I’m getting the feeling that all this is building up to something really big. There are just too many signs that something’s off about the whole setup, even knowing that it’s not actually the Good Place. Eternal torture for meager sins for being indecisive or doing the right thing for the wrong reason? (Hey, look at our nations’s history; that’s pretty much the only way the right thing _ever_ gets done!) The French _all_ going to the Bad Place? Why? How?..

The thing is if the point system is fake after all; that means either Michael is orchestrating another layer of deception for the 4 humans, or Michael has spend his entire existence in a fake reality.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/444 "2017-10-21T05:03:01Z")

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> [@DKW](#):
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> (I _never_ thought I’d see the day when a primetime comedy would use a friggin’ GIGANTIC SPRAY OF BLOOD as a sight gag!)

Ah, you silly provincial Americans, [it’s old hat to us.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMOtMWD63Q4)

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**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/445 "2017-10-21T13:18:58Z")

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The way Chidi said “and their body parts flew in my mouth!” had laughing hysterically. I had to rewatch the next five minutes because I missed it due to the outrageous laughter.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/446 "2017-10-21T14:59:03Z")

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My name is Kierkegaard and my writing is impeccable/Check out my teleological suspension of the ethical

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/447 "2017-10-21T15:36:58Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> My name is Kierkegaard and my writing is impeccable/Check out my teleological suspension of the ethical

Chidi really is super adorkable.

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**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/448 "2017-10-21T18:31:39Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> > [@DKW](#):
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> > I’m getting the feeling that all this is building up to something really big. There are just too many signs that something’s off about the whole setup, even knowing that it’s not actually the Good Place. Eternal torture for meager sins for being indecisive or doing the right thing for the wrong reason? (Hey, look at our nations’s history; that’s pretty much the only way the right thing _ever_ gets done!) The French _all_ going to the Bad Place? Why? How?
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> The thing is if the point system is fake after all; that means either Michael is orchestrating another layer of deception for the 4 humans, or Michael has spend his entire existence in a fake reality.

Also, does Michael ever say that stuff about the French around anyone besides Chidi? IIRC, he was supposedly raised in Senegal.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2017, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/449 "2017-10-21T20:50:46Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> My name is Kierkegaard and my writing is impeccable/Check out my teleological suspension of the ethical

I had to take a class in Kierkegaard in grad school. I would have loved Chidi’s rap musical. Fiitting the metal bull that transforms the cries of those being tortured into beautiful music would have made it even better. Michael would have loved that bit.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/450 "2017-10-28T01:44:18Z")

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So is Janet’s boyfriend a human, or did she manage to create another being like herself, but with _Jason’s intelligence_. :eek:

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/451 "2017-10-28T03:54:23Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> So is Janet’s boyfriend a human, or did she manage to create another being like herself, but with _Jason’s intelligence_. :eek:

I think he must be human - Michael said, “You can’t create a person!”

Michael definitely getting better, but his brush-off of Chidi with the needles all over his body was great.

Did anyone get all the Pudding restaurant names?

StG

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/452 "2017-10-28T04:05:49Z")

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Pudding restaurant names:

Custard’s Last Flan  
A Few Pudd Men  
Panna Cotta Da Vida  
I Tought I Saw A Puddin Vat  
Boyz In The Pudd  
Puddington Bear

There was also one called Scents Memories, not sure what that has to do with pudding.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/453 "2017-10-28T04:30:35Z")

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Derek makes Jason seem like the smart one.

A cute episode and I can never get enough Janet but not up to “the Trolley Problem” level.

Needles seems hard to not be a give away that they are not in The Good Place.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/454 "2017-10-28T11:24:41Z")

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I got:

1. Custard’s Last Flan
2. Panna Cotta Da Vida
3. A Few Pudd Men
4. I Tought I Saw a Puddin’ Vat
5. Boyz in the Pudd

I think there were one or two I missed.

Here are all the objects I got from the random object generator. I’d love to know if anyone got stuff I missed. There were some things I couldn’t quite read:

1. Two trillion interlocking pentagonal coins

2. 1/800 scale pewter statue of former NBA legend Lafayette (something I couldn’t read)

3. A nine piece furniture set from a furniture store in Dar Es Salaam

4. A silly monkey

5. (Something I couldn’t read) from a blackbird

6. Replica of the “Winged Victory of Samothrace”

7. One otter whisker

8. 410 metric tonnes of corrugated cardboard

9. Women’s XXS Bolton Wanderers sweatpants

10. 26’ x 30’ oil painting detailing the average rainfall in (couldn’t read the rest)

11. (something I couldn’t read) band’s greatest hits, 1974–1978

12. Pages 224–229 of David Lee Roth’s autobiography, “Crazy From the Heat”

13. An Easter Island head dressed up like Gleek from “The All-New Super Friends Hour”  
Relationships between objects from the ROG:

14. Glued to

15. Basted evenly over

16. Stacked on top of

17. Precariously resting upon the apex of

18. Blended into a smoothie with

19. (Something I couldn’t read) powder

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/455 "2017-10-28T11:32:13Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Needles seems hard to not be a give away that they are not in The Good Place.

Acupuncture plus Emperor’s New Clothes? It’s a mystical technique that produces ecstasy, but only if you’re free of dishonesty – which you _are,_ since you must be, since you’re in The Good Place, and since you’re clearly not covering for some blonde who revealed to you that she’s not that other Eleanor Shellstrop?

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/456 "2017-10-28T14:43:34Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Derek makes Jason seem like the smart one.

I was amused on a meta level that I recognized him as Jason Mantzoukas just from the back of his head. The man is distinctive.

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**Post date:** [October 28, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/457 "2017-10-28T15:52:44Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> Here are all the objects I got from the random object generator. I’d love to know if anyone got stuff I missed. There were some things I couldn’t quite read:
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> 1. Two trillion interlocking pentagonal coins  
> **2) 1/800 scale pewter statue of former NBA legend Lafayette (something I couldn’t read)**
> 2. A nine piece furniture set from a furniture store in Dar Es Salaam
> 3. A silly monkey
> 4. (Something I couldn’t read) from a blackbird
> 5. Replica of the “Winged Victory of Samothrace”
> 6. One otter whisker
> 7. 410 metric tonnes of corrugated cardboard
> 8. Women’s XXS Bolton Wanderers sweatpants
> 9. 26’ x 30’ oil painting detailing the average rainfall in (couldn’t read the rest)
> 10. (something I couldn’t read) band’s greatest hits, 1974–1978
> 11. Pages 224–229 of David Lee Roth’s autobiography, “Crazy From the Heat”
> 12. An Easter Island head dressed up like Gleek from “The All-New Super Friends Hour”

TTBOMK, the only player in NBA history named Lafayette is Lafayette “Fat” Lever. I don’t know whether Fat rises to the level of “NBA Legend,” but he did have a couple of good seasons in Denver.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/458 "2017-10-30T20:25:32Z")

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I just watched the first season on Netflix, and really enjoyed it. The end of season twist was nicely foreshadowed, and I’m eager to watch season two when I can.

Personally, I think the problem with the design was that they overthought the whole thing. Take 300 bad but not awful humans, stick them in the good place tell them they’re all great people, provide them with not quite enough amenities for everyone to share, then leave them without supervision. Add a few demon ringers mixed in with the population to stir the pot, and I bet they go lord of the flies within a year.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/459 "2017-11-04T10:43:27Z")

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Just saw the last episode of the fall. We don’t get another one until January. This ending with a cliffhanger thing is bullshirt.

I wonder how much Shawn knows.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/460 "2017-11-04T11:08:56Z")

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Certainly not everything. There must be at least one episode where TC are desperately trying to pretend to Sean that they’ve been there decades and had decades worth of torture.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2017, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/461 "2017-11-04T11:59:35Z")

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> [@Scribble](#):
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> Just saw the last episode of the fall. We don’t get another one until January. This ending with a cliffhanger thing is bullshirt.
> 
> I wonder how much Shawn knows.

The last episode until January? :eek:

My, aren’t you the bad news bear!

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