# The Good Place \[edited title\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 21, 2016, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545 "2016-09-21T23:33:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/482 "2018-01-06T10:18:36Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Why did hiding under the train block Janet’s ability to sense them? She was standing nearly directly on top of them, so I expect that her detecta vision only worked along her line of sight. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/483 "2018-01-06T10:58:09Z")
She scanned in front of herself only, not behind. The railway line is [right up against a high cliff](https://www.dropbox.com/s/47ldzw0amm645ra/The.Good.Place.jpg?raw=1) that appears to be the edge of the zone. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/484 "2018-01-06T14:55:36Z")
There’s a Latin motto on the lectern during the roast–did anyone translate it? We tried last night, and got something like, “Ridicule the terrible people feast–all bad” (I forget exactly what it was), but that’s with Google Translate. I’m curious if anyone who read Latin well knows what it said. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/485 "2018-01-06T15:47:13Z")
Irrisiones Infidelium Convivia - Eius Formido ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/486 "2018-01-06T19:27:48Z")
Excellent. I only got “Irrisiones Infidelium Convivia” which google translated as “He would ridicule of unbelievers” Brian ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/487 "2018-01-06T20:30:51Z")
My best guess is that it says something like “Comedy Roast” using ridiculously baroque Latin, but I’m not sure. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/488 "2018-01-06T21:22:21Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > My best guess is that it says something like “Comedy Roast” using ridiculously baroque Latin, but I’m not sure. More like “Comedy roasts are terrible”. ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/489 "2018-01-06T21:27:49Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > Irrisiones Infidelium Convivia - Eius Formido I survived 4 years of high school Latin relying mostly on spotting English cognates, plus a good memory for word endings. If you guess “infidelis” is a third declension noun, then “infidelium” must be the genitive plural: “of the infideles”. If convivium is 2nd declension neuter, then convivia is the plural. “Irrisiones” also looks like a third declension plural. 3rd declension can have a variety of endings in the singular; apparently in this case the singular is “irrisio”. So from word endings and cognates, one can guess something like: “Derisions of the infidels convivial gatherings”. With the benefit of a dictionary, we see: [irrisio](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/irrisio#Latin): derision, mockery [infidelis](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/infidelis#Latin): unfaithful, unbelieving, infidel [convivium](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/convivium#Latin): banquet, feast So something like “Mockeries feasts of the unbelievers”. Or perhaps: “Roasts of the sinners”. My high school Latin was a long time ago, though, so caveat emptor. ---
**Author:** ![tim314](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim314/32/3468_2.png) [@tim314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim314)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/490 "2018-01-06T21:37:26Z")
Also, “eius” is “his”, the genitive case of [is](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/is#Pronoun): he [formido](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/formido#Noun): fear, terror, horror. So “eius formido” is something like “his terror”. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/491 "2018-01-07T21:51:03Z")
And they’re gonna have to lighten up on the Jaguars jokes; Bortles et al are serious contenders this offseason! mc ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/492 "2018-01-08T01:12:08Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > And they’re gonna have to lighten up on the Jaguars jokes; Bortles et al are serious contenders this offseason! > > mc I should have gotten to this thread sooner, as I was thinking the same thing. He’s really in hell, as he can’t see how his teams fortunes have turned around. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/493 "2018-01-08T12:05:12Z")
The question is does time work the same way in the bad place? They have been there hundreds of years subjective, so unless time is greatly accelerated, the grandchildren of Bortles’s grandchildren’s grandchildren are already in their own good or bad place. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/494 "2018-01-08T15:49:30Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > The question is does time work the same way in the bad place? They have been there hundreds of years subjective, so unless time is greatly accelerated, the grandchildren of Bortles’s grandchildren’s grandchildren are already in their own good or bad place. I wonder if ‘time’ is even a concept. It seems like the Places could be entirely out side of time - although there may need to be some connection to the ‘real’ universe because our four human protagonists all apparently died somewhat at the same time? Although I don’t know if we know that, and with memory wiping, they could have been in a standard Bad Place before being put into the experiment. Oh, and “I left over 1200 clues, but I’m glad you figured out four of them”. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/495 "2018-01-08T16:34:03Z")
I have a theory that Janet is God. Or at least, godlike in terms of the show’s cosmology. She exists everywhere and nowhere, can do anything, knows everything, etc. Has a “good side” and “evil side” as is sometimes suggested in popular depictions of divinity. My suspicion is that the whole thing was set up by Janet as a way for God to experience human-ish life, learning more and more with each “incarnation”. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/496 "2018-01-08T20:51:40Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I wonder if ‘time’ is even a concept. It seems like the Places could be entirely out side of time - although there may need to be some connection to the ‘real’ universe because our four human protagonists all apparently died somewhat at the same time? Although I don’t know if we know that, and with memory wiping, they could have been in a standard Bad Place before being put into the experiment… I think the only way we’ll find out exactly how time in the afterlife relates to time on Earth would be if the series ends with the gang being reincarnated (ie cut from Eleanor to a babying being born in a Martian colony). I never even thought about them being plucked from the real Bad Place; I just assumed they all died around the same time and were in limbo while Michael created the neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/497 "2018-01-08T22:05:20Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > My suspicion is that the whole thing was set up by Janet as a way for God to experience human-ish life, learning more and more with each “incarnation”. I think the writers could work their way into that, but I don’t see it. The end of Season 1 showed Michael et al. stealing a new Janet to download the old one into (or something). They made it sound like there was a whole pocket dimension full of them. And she comes with a manual. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/498 "2018-01-08T22:24:31Z")
Maybe _all_ of the Janets are “God”. ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/499 "2018-01-09T14:09:08Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > I think the writers could work their way into that, but I don’t see it. The end of Season 1 showed Michael et al. stealing a new Janet to download the old one into (or something). They made it sound like there was a whole pocket dimension full of them. And she comes with a manual. Pretty sure that was a flashback to him stealing prior to creating the neighborhood. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/500 "2018-01-09T22:16:39Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I have a theory that Janet is God. Or at least, godlike in terms of the show’s cosmology. > She exists everywhere and nowhere, can do anything, knows everything, etc. > Has a “good side” and “evil side” as is sometimes suggested in popular depictions of divinity. > My suspicion is that the whole thing was set up by Janet as a way for God to experience human-ish life, learning more and more with each “incarnation”. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > …my theory. Also, that Janet is God. ^October 1. In re the chrysalis Sean put Vicky into: I was a bit puzzled by that, too, as he seemed to imply it was a horrible punishment (‘gooey inside’ or something similar). And, yes, when he was introduced, he kept going into one of those himself every time someone upset him by…being emotional, was it? That’s what I remember, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545/501 "2018-01-10T14:24:42Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > ^October 1. > > In re the chrysalis Sean put Vicky into: I was a bit puzzled by that, too, as he seemed to imply it was a horrible punishment (‘gooey inside’ or something similar). And, yes, when he was introduced, he kept going into one of those himself every time someone upset him by…being emotional, was it? That’s what I remember, anyway. There doesn’t have to be one type of chrysalis - some can be gooey, some can be comforting (or maybe Sean’s real form is gooey - we know that at least some of the demons are wearing human suits). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-good-place-edited-title/766545.md?page=26)